[PD] check mail with pd ?

[Martin Peach]

You can manipulate strings in pdlua and only export the symbols you 
want; yes you need to learn lua but it's not very hard.

Martin

On 2014-02-08 01:10, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> On 02/06/2014 01:53 AM, Chris McCormick wrote:
>> On 06/02/14 06:29, puredata at 11h11.com wrote:
>>> but pd is not really good with strings afaik
>> Maybe soon:
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/pure-data/ci/8a02332a5fb68edc2899e2f13513c77f0796d21b/
>>
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/pure-data/ci/49ffcf8ba5cdde7660e82f1e190fcee7c6fa5627/
>>
>>
>> :)
>
> One of the reasons (I think) the string manipulation libs in Pd extended
> haven't caught on is because they seem to force users to care directly
> about character codes.  If I want to pass the string "hello{world}"
> around in Pd, I should not have to know the codes for curly braces just
> to create that string in an object box.
>
> To work, this will require a new set of GUI classes that allow the user
> to type strings that get saved underneath as character codes, as well as
> display lists of character codes as a string in the patch.  I don't know
> any externals that do this, but it shouldn't be hard if you're sending
> the text to the GUI as floats.  Also, you need i/o classes to read from
> and write to files without having to pass through lists of symbols and
> floats as intermediaries. Otherwise, you will lose data on the read.
> Finally, you can't leverage any of the extant symbol manipulation tools,
> because then you run into symbol-table growth, dollsym
> substitutions/escapes, and all the other problems that I assume are the
> reason for introducing lists of character codes.  Otherwise you're just
> pushing the current problems users have with symbols to the edges of the
> new string library.
>
> I understand the desire for this approach, and it's probably less work
> than making symbols deallocatable.  But if the user has to stare at
> character codes just to get around the limitations of symbol atoms,
> they'll probably just use symbol atoms and work within Pd's current
> limitations for string processing.
>
> -Jonathan
>
>
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