[PD] Is open source better?

Julian Brooks jbeezez at gmail.com
Mon Feb 10 17:38:41 CET 2014


Hi Pall,

First off I would make the distinction between Free Software and Open
Source (sorry to bring that one up again:).
Secondly, the big thing for me is that this is really all about
social-relations - how do I wish to be treated and how will I treat others.

I could bang on and on but that's the big one.

This is worth checking out
http://texts.bleu255.com/preface-flossart/
as is the rest of the book which should be freely floating about online.
(can't put my finger on it straight away but there was/is an online version
which included all the books sources which was a nice touch)

Bit of shameless self-promotion here too:
http://eprints.hud.ac.uk/15006/

Regards,

Julian




On 10 February 2014 12:12, Simon Wise <simonzwise at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 10/02/14 20:27, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
>
>> Hi Pall,
>>
>> On 10/02/2014 04:45, Pall Thayer wrote:
>>
>>> This was a faculty grant at a US arts-focused college. I would say that
>>> 95% of students, 80% of faculty use Apple products. That really doesn't
>>> matter though.
>>>
>>
>> As you asked for feedback..
>> I think it does. I'm not proposing the usual (sterile) apple vs. xyz
>> flame, but
>> I've noticed this "mac for music" thing in academia and conservatoires
>> over here
>> (Italy). One thing that surprised me is the attachment to this ecosystem
>> in the
>> electoacoustic music landscape, where one would expect people to
>> experiment as
>> much as possible with unknown and unfamiliar tools in all directions.
>> What is also interesting is to understand if the use of Apple products and
>> software (e.g. MAX/MSP) is truly justified by creative/artistic needs or
>> if it's
>> just a matter of habit/convenience (this question in a neutral way, i.e.
>> nothing
>> against convenience).
>>
>
> 15 years ago editing video was very much better on a mac than any other
> comparably priced system, this certainly helped encourage many AV people to
> learn the mac way. While they still used powerPC chips there were a lot of
> advantages to OSX over linux for working with video in pd. A few good audio
> apps have been available on mac for a lot longer than that, and macs have
> been pretty consistently easy to set up for common audio workflows ...
> providing you stick with mac friendly hardware purchases and adapt your
> practice those workflows. Much earlier Apple had got a lot of designers on
> board in a similar way with desktop publishing.
>
> Learning to use an OS is a lot of invested time, changing OSes means a new
> investment of time. Apple understands this and has often made it quite
> cheap for educational institutions to get macs to teach on and has kept
> transitions between versions reasonably easy for the user, so a lot of
> students and artists with a bit of cash to throw at good equipment learn
> OSX, then go on to use it rather than learn another and when it comes time
> to pick a platform to teach on or recommend to others ...
>
> Habit and already invested time, plus decent equipment and effective tools
> available without changing OS are a quite persuasive combination. Now on a
> hand-held level apple hardware is again significantly better than other
> stuff for some media and audio uses.
>
> But you miss out on quite a lot too, and educational institutions should
> try to broaden their students' experience rather than just go with what is
> easiest.
>
> Simon
>
>
>
>> I'm not sure how (much) this fits in the topic you're going to address,
>> but I
>> think it's an interesting angle to take into account. And I'll be happy
>> to share
>> my personal experiences further if you think it's interesting (as I guess
>> my
>> email was already rather long)
>>
>> Ciao,
>> Lorenzo.
>>
>
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