[PD] libpd separating gui from core

[Jonathan Wilkes]

On 02/23/2014 08:15 PM, Ivica Bukvic wrote:
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> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com 
> <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>     On Feb 23, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com
>     <mailto:jancsika at yahoo.com>> wrote:
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>     Yeah, stuff like that we should be able to solve. I'm not for
>     ditching the Tcl/Tk gui at all. The work you and Ivica have been
>     doing seems to be going a long way to fix this. Great! I just
>     really hope this goes back into vanilla somehow or can be split up
>     into between libpd and a gui implementation, etc. Otherwise, I
>     fear a return to DD.
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> If I may chime in for a sec (pd-l2ork author here), there is 
> absolutely no interest in dropping development of pd-l2ork anytime 
> soon. Pd-L2Ork already has thousands of lines of code either altered 
> or added and I have no intention of slowing down. Likewise, in part 
> because I tried in the past, I have no interest in trying to get 
> things merged into the core pd. I will very much welcome someone 
> else's efforts to do so but knowing Miller's gargantuan goal of 
> keeping backwards compatibility, I simply feel this approach is too 
> time consuming for me to promote the rate of development I (and as it 
> appears many others on this list) desire.

Additionally, DesireData never had any stable releases as far as I 
remember.  matju may have used it for some of his projects, but when I 
played around with it there were major chunks of functionality missing, 
and easy crashes.

If someone wanted to port over DD's keyboard-only patching feature to 
Pd-l2ork, for example, you'd very quickly see the difference between the 
two.  Because once it makes it into a release you'd be using the feature 
in a piece of stable software.  That's an enormous difference.

-Jonathan
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