[PD] Bugs in Pd-Extended in Ubuntu LTS

Jack jack at rybn.org
Wed Mar 5 21:31:54 CET 2014


Oups, i wanted to say 'Ubuntu 13.10'.
++

Jack


Le 05/03/2014 21:28, Jack a écrit :
> Did you try with Ubuntu 13.04 ?
> With this version, I don't get crash when i create an object or when
> the object doesn't exist. I have to admit, i get crash in very rare
> cases, so it is not totally fixed yet (but it is better when i was
> with Ubuntu 12.04).
> ++
>
> Jack
>
>
>
> Le 05/03/2014 21:03, Pierre Massat a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just a quick follow up on this topic. I have just compiled Miller's
>> latest version (0.45-4), and the bug that's crashing X is still
>> there. This time I managed to reproduce it somehow by creating an
>> empty object to make a subpatch and typing "pd m" (and bang it
>> crashed). Same behaviour with the same patch in pd-extended 0.43.4.
>> It's super annoying...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Pierre.
>>
>>
>> 2014-02-25 23:16 GMT+01:00 Ivica Bukvic <ico at vt.edu <mailto:ico at vt.edu>>:
>>
>>     Once pd-extended removes unnecessary dependency on pd-utils you
>>     will. Until then you will need to uninstall one and install the
>>     other.
>>
>>     On Feb 25, 2014 4:54 PM, "Pierre Massat" <pimassat at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:pimassat at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi,
>>         Katja, I will try to check if this is a problem with pulse
>>         audio. I also have a jackdbus running even when applications
>>         supposed to use it are closed (Ardour and Pd in my case).
>>
>>         Can I install pd-l2ork alongside pd-extended, or do I have to
>>         uninstall it first ?
>>
>>         Pierre.
>>
>>
>>         2014-02-25 22:22 GMT+01:00 Ivica Bukvic <ico at vt.edu
>>         <mailto:ico at vt.edu>>:
>>
>>             Guys, Can you check if pd-l2ork works OK and please
>>             report? We provide native Ubuntu builds (built for 12.04).
>>
>>             On Feb 25, 2014 4:20 PM, "katja" <katjavetter at gmail.com
>>             <mailto:katjavetter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                 Hi Pierre,
>>
>>                 I'm on Xubuntu 12.04 with Pd-extended 0.44 and have
>>                 experienced big
>>                 troubles with Jack too. I only use Jack for complex
>>                 routings like
>>                 Skype to Pd or Kdenlive to Pd via PulseAudio+Jack. I
>>                 got a lot of
>>                 jackdbus-errors initially, and jack wouldn't restart.
>>                 Don't know if
>>                 it's the same issue which you're experiencing.
>>                 Anyway, it seems that
>>                 this was about jackd2 writing config files to
>>                 different places, which
>>                 can be out of sync under certain conditions. Not sure
>>                 if this is a
>>                 correct description but it is my interpretation.
>>                 Looking at running
>>                 processes in command htop, I always noticed a
>>                 jackdbus processing
>>                 still running when the dbus error was given. Killing
>>                 the jackdbus
>>                 process sometimes helped. But in the course of time
>>                 I've somehow
>>                 learned how to avoid it at all, by carefully
>>                 considering the right
>>                 order of operations when starting processes. I have
>>                 PulseAudio
>>                 disabled by default, so I can start Jack first, then
>>                 the Jack clients,
>>                 of which PulseAudio may be one. Then eventually the
>>                 PulseAudio
>>                 clients. When killing processes, everything in
>>                 reverse order. I don't
>>                 like this hocus pocus, but well, I'm happy if it
>>                 works at all. On
>>                 Kubuntu I couldn't get PulseAudio to cooperate with Jack.
>>
>>                 Katja
>>
>>                 On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Pierre Massat
>>                 <pimassat at gmail.com <mailto:pimassat at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>                 > I just checked again and to to sum up I have three
>>                 problems :
>>                 > - errors with JACK (and instability),
>>                 > - X crashes sometimes when typing stuff in an
>>                 object box,
>>                 > - and Alsa throwing this error in the console :
>>                 "ALSA output error (restart
>>                 > failed): Broken pipe" (though the sound does work).
>>                 >
>>                 > Pierre.
>>                 >
>>                 >
>>                 > 2014-02-25 21:23 GMT+01:00 Cyrille Henry
>>                 <ch at chnry.net <mailto:ch at chnry.net>>:
>>                 >
>>                 >>
>>                 >>
>>                 >> Le 25/02/2014 21:03, Roman Haefeli a écrit :
>>                 >>
>>                 >>> On Die, 2014-02-25 at 19:50 +0100, Pierre Massat
>>                 wrote:
>>                 >>>
>>                 >>>
>>                 >>>> I have installed Pd-extended from the Ubuntu
>>                 repos. It seems to be the
>>                 >>>> same version as the one available on
>>                 puredata.info <http://puredata.info> (0.43.4).
>>                 >>>
>>                 >>>
>>                 >>> I am pretty sure there is no package called
>>                 'pd-extended' in the Ubuntu
>>                 >>> repositories. Probably you got it from Hans' ppa
>>                 or from
>>                 >>> apt.puredata.info <http://apt.puredata.info>?
>>                 >>>
>>                 >>> Also, is your Ubuntu 12.04 up-to-date? Your bug
>>                 description sounds like
>>                 >>> an intel driver bug in 13.04 or 13.10 that has
>>                 been discussed a lot on
>>                 >>> this list. I thought this bug has been fixed for
>>                 quite a while.
>>                 >>
>>                 >> i still have some problem. (i'm on 13.10). X can
>>                 crash specially if i have
>>                 >> object that are not created on the patch.
>>                 >> c
>>                 >>
>>                 >>
>>                 >>
>>                 >>>
>>                 >>>
>>                 >>> Roman
>>                 >>>
>>                 >>>
>>                 >>>
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