[PD] 100k lines of code (was libpd separating gui from core)

[me.grimm]

Hi Miller,

I know you probably have more pressing problems but it would be nice to get
something like [getdir] in vanilla before you hit those 100k lines of code
OR 50 years are up :)

I know you have been bugged in the past but I just wanted to throw it in
again in case I could put some influence into you moving such functionality
up the "to do" list...

>> built to last 50 years.  It's now about 17 ywars in (1/3 of its intended
lifetime.)

BTW I find this to be so cool. software minimalism at its finest. for me,
there is no reason to go elsewhere...

thanks for all the work!
m


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu> wrote:

> HI all -
>
> My figure was 100K lines, not 10K.  PD's C code is at about 70K now, and
> the
> Tcl/TK code is 7K - so I am only adding expansions very carefully now.
>
> Another related idea with an absurdly arbitrary round number attached: the
> code is
> built to last 50 years.  It's now about 17 ywars in (1/3 of its intended
> lifetime.)
>
> cheers
> Miller
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 06:26:43PM -0500, Ivica Bukvic wrote:
> > What I have been doing is solidifying core features to get a better idea
> of
> > what the source should look like. Separating anything beforehand will
> > result in s lot of problems/busywork later. I would also not deceive
> myself
> > that 10K lines is enough. Pd-extended is way above that when you include
> > 3rs party externals. Ditto for pd-l2ork.
> > On Feb 26, 2014 6:10 PM, "Peter Brinkmann" <
> peter.brinkmann at googlemail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Ivica Bukvic <ico at vt.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > >> The reason why I believe combining all of these will not be feasible
> is
> > >> because in one of my recent conversations with Miller (and Miller
> please
> > >> correct me if I somehow misremember here) he expressed his belief any
> > >> project that exceeds N lines of code which I believe in this case it
> was
> > >> something like 10000, it becomes unmaintainable and dies.
> > >>
> > > That's why separating the GUI from the audio engine is so important. I
> > > sort of agree that 10000 lines of irreducible GUI+audio code would
> probably
> > > be unmaintainable. On the other hand, 5000 lines of audio code plus
> 5000
> > > lines of GUI code, communicating through a smallish, well-defined
> > > interface, wouldn't be a problem at all.
> > >
> > >
>
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