[PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 109, Issue 52

Jack jack at rybn.org
Thu Apr 17 00:56:52 CEST 2014


OK, all is working now. ;)
But i can't help you, i don't know who is the author of this
abstraction, sorry.
++

Jack



Le 16/04/2014 16:05, Nick Arner a écrit :
> Hi Jack, 
>
> Yes, that was my mistake; I've now attached both the patch and the
> abstraction. 
>
> Thanks!
> Nick
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>        1. Re: Pd and RME HDSP alsa vs jack performance (Peter P.)
>        2. Re: PD List (GEM VideoSynth) (Jack)
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>     Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 18:40:31 -0400
>     From: "Peter P." <p8rpp at aol.com <mailto:p8rpp at aol.com>>
>     Subject: Re: [PD] Pd and RME HDSP alsa vs jack performance
>     To: Federico Galland <federicogalland at gmail.com
>     <mailto:federicogalland at gmail.com>>
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>     * Federico Galland <federicogalland at gmail.com
>     <mailto:federicogalland at gmail.com>> [2014-04-15 17:46]:
>     > On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 16:07:03 -0400
>     > "Peter P." <p8rpp at aol.com <mailto:p8rpp at aol.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     > > Hi list,
>     > >
>     > > following up onto some earlier postings I had made about the
>     current
>     > > problems running Pd with any buffersize larger(!) than 5 using
>     alsa,
>     > > the mmap code and an RME HDSP Multiface on Debian Linux, here
>     are some
>     > > more results from tests I made recently:
>     > >
>     > > Alsa only works with audiobuf smaller 6, otherwise causing totally
>     > > garbled sound. With that short buffer settings it is unusable for
>     > > everything more CPU intense than sine test tones though.
>     > >
>     > > The only way to get Pd to run reliably under some load on my
>     box using
>     > > the HDSP is to use jack with 256 frames at 2 periods/buffer.
>     > >
>     > > Now what is weird is that the built in soundcard of my box is
>     able to
>     > > do the same thing without problems with just 64 frames at 3
>     > > periods/buffer in jack.
>     > >
>     > > Again with the HDSP, once I start adding Gem and let it render a
>     > > single geo, I do get many audio dropouts unless I increase jack's
>     > > buffers to a minimum 2048 frames at 2 frames/buffer.
>     > >
>     > > I tested this using two different HDSP cards on two different
>     Debian
>     > > boxes, using the -rt flag, realtime and non-realtime kernels,
>     > > optional callbacks and different sleegrain setting.
>     > >
>     > > Somehow it seems very sad that one of the best pro
>     multichannel sound
>     > > cards under Linux seems to be unusable with Pd under Alsa
>     reliably.
>     > >
>     > > I would like to contribute to any ways of improving this
>     situation and
>     > > desperately hope that someone can comment on my findings.
>     > >
>     > > thank you!
>     > > best, Peter
>     > >
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>     > I guess you have ruled out everything under this wiki
>     http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/system_configuration ?
>     Thank you Federico,
>     I looked at the page and most suggesstions is stuff I already
>     considered.
>     >
>     > Is the HDSP a PCI interface? If so, pay particular attention to
>     the "pci bus latency" part.
>     Well it is a ExpressCard interface in my case, and I wonder if that
>     qualifies as PCI device. The above pages mentions that PCIe devices
>     are not affected by the irq priorities as PCI does.
>
>     best, Peter
>
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>     Message: 2
>     Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:55:40 +0200
>     From: Jack <jack at rybn.org <mailto:jack at rybn.org>>
>     Subject: Re: [PD] PD List (GEM VideoSynth)
>     To: Nick Arner <nicholasarner at gmail.com
>     <mailto:nicholasarner at gmail.com>>, pd-list <pd-list at iem.at
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>     Message-ID: <534E458C.6060408 at rybn.org
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>     Hello Nick,
>
>     Don't forget to reply to all. That could be interresting for other
>     people on this list.
>     The document you sent is now a patch (attached).
>     But what can we do with it ? There is only a single object
>     [video_synth]
>     on the canvas. It seems to be an abstraction, right ?
>     You have to send us the patch AND the abstraction.
>     And where are other objects like [gemwin] ? We are talking about
>     Gem, no ?
>     ++
>
>     Jack
>
>
>
>     06 59 23 94 69 Andr?
>
>     Le 16/04/2014 01:23, Nick Arner a ?crit :
>     > Hi Jack,
>     >
>     > Thanks for the reply! I've attached the PD patch (it looks like the
>     > attachment went through this time)
>     >
>     > Thanks,
>     > Nick
>     >
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