[PD] WG: Inverse bandpass filter

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

can;t remember where I saw about this, but check this link

http://msp.ucsd.edu/techniques/v0.11/book-html/node141.html

see the quote "An easy and practical way to remove the zero-frequency
component from an audio signal is to use a one-pole low-pass filter to
extract it, and then subtract the result from the signal. The resulting
transfer function is one minus the transfer function of the low-pass
filter:"

doesn't it agree with what I said?


cheers



2014-04-22 14:37 GMT-03:00 Robert Esler <robert at urbanstew.org>:

> I could be wrong, but I don't think it's quite the same thing.  I believe
> the signal would be out of phase negating many of the effects of the
> filter.  I would recommend using [biquad~] and in pd-extended there is a
> [notch] object which takes care of the coefficients.  This sounds much
> cleaner and more notch-like to my ear than subtracting the filtered output.
>
>  There is an explanation in Miller's book if you like unit circle math:
> http://msp.ucsd.edu/techniques/latest/book-html/node144.html
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> isn't it just subtract the audio from the filtered output?
>
> I guess you can get inverse freq response just by that
>
> cheers
>
>
> 2014-04-18 17:21 GMT-03:00 Ingo <ingo at miamiwave.com>:
>
> You could send the original signal in parallel and invert the phase by
> multiplying with -1. You might have to delay the original signal in case
> that the processed signal gets also delayed by one or more blocks.
>
> Ingo
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> > Is there a simple way to make [bp~] or [vcf~] have an inverse function?
> To
> > filter out, rather than pass a changing frequency value. Is the easiest
> > way to do this with a combination of [lop~] and [hip~]?
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