[PD] Should message objects be able to pre-parse $0 into valid dollarzero?

Ivica Bukvic ico at vt.edu
Wed Sep 10 08:27:51 CEST 2014

On Sep 10, 2014 1:17 AM, "Chris McCormick" <chris at mccormick.cx> wrote:
> Hi Ivica,
> On 10/09/14 04:19, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
> > Yet, I wonder why message shouldn't be able to pre-parse $0 into a valid
> > dollarzero (canvas instance), when there will never be a message one
> >
> > Thoughts?
> There has been a lot of discussion regarding this over the years which
> might be good to read to get an idea on the different
> philosophical/language design issues:
> <http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.multimedia.puredata.general/56365>

Thanks, Chris, for bringing this to my attention. Since one of Miller's
core ideas behind pd is absolute backwards compatibility, most of
alternatives suggested in that thread would cause unacceptable breakage
with backwards compatibility or a really kludge workaround for the support
of legacy patches. It seems to me Phil really has a point I completely
agree with. FWIW, I am looking to implement this in pd-l2ork and as soon as
I get a better idea about the recursion Miller mentioned and how to
circumvent it, it should find its way into pd-l2ork's source.



> Cheers,
> Chris.
> --
> http://mccormick.cx/
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