[PD] Updated pd-extended

[Dan Wilcox]

Well, time & money are intertwined.

This is why I was talking about a Pd foundation/organization etc that could take donations from schools, organizations, poor artists etc and roll it into bounties or development support/residences. Pd has a pretty active user base but a much much smaller developer base so it makes things a bit harder since there is essentially more pressure on these smaller numbers of developers who already have limited time as it is.

I know a "foundation" is a huge word to throw around but it could literally be one place in the world, probably support by some university, that hosts people to work on aspects of Pd. We've already had people stepping up to help pay for airfare for the last few Pd meetups / patching circles etc, so that could be something similar.

Anyway, it's totally *doable* it always come back to who will do it and when.

On Sep 21, 2014, at 5:19 PM, me.grimm <megrimm at gmail.com> wrote:

> >> it involves time
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> ... or money. 
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> maybe we revisit the kickstarter (or something else) idea brought forth by jonathon a few years ago and just pay someone to do it. to me it seems like 1) none of us really have any money (im just assuming here we are all poor artists) and more importantly 2) none of us really have any time and those that do might not have the skills.
> 
> OR maybe we have another PDCon (remember that?) to get amped up and pump something out....
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> m
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> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com> wrote:
> I talked to Hans about this a bit. In essence, it involves bringing in the new pd vanilla source and making sure the Pd-extended additions/modifications aren't lost. With the updates/cleanups to the tcl/tk sources a few years ago (great work Hans et al!), it should be alot easier than the previous extended releases. But still, *easy* or not, it involves time.
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> On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:00 AM, pd-list-request at lists.iem.at wrote:
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>> From: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [PD] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Updated pd-extended
>> Date: September 20, 2014 at 5:02:59 PM EDT
>> To: Billy Stiltner <billy.stiltner at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "pd-list at lists.iem.at" <pd-list at lists.iem.at>
>> 
>> 
>> I wish I knew something about coding to help out with its development :P I do care a lot about it though and wish I could help in some other way. 
>> 
>> I do see a few problems with extended, but they're basically related to some of the externals and libraries that sometimes do not work as they should, have bad and messy help files and are sometimes redundanct. If welcome, I could help sharing my thoughts and two cents about that, but I realize those are not actual bug fixes regarding the code, so it's not a priority on its to do list and issues for being updated to another release.
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>> Anyway, while were at it, what kind of work exactly do you mean someone would have to do? I suppose there is a great list of bug fixes just to keep it basically what it is. Given the context, I'm not assuming any big to do list for some new features agenda. But besidesthe bug fixes, how hard is it for someone to just update to the latest vanilla core? 
>> 
>> Well, since Pd is an open source project that relies on community effort, and this is the list of its main developers and users, I guess this is the place to talk about a collaboration and see if we can get Pd-extended's development
>> to continue.
>> 
>> I'd to help in any way I can.
>> 
>> Cheers
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