[PD] running vanilla with Tcl 8.5 on OSX

Wed Sep 24 19:33:21 CEST 2014

yes hans is right. I was able to open by changing gatekeeper settings or
command below.

for example at the uni i would usually run:

xattr -d com.apple.quarantine
/Users/megrimm/Desktop/Pd-0.46-0-64bit-retina.app

to open apps on stations that did not conform to IT policy but that was
with 10.8

with 10.9.5 at least, i have to run it with "sudu" to open it meaning if IT
updates OS to 10.9.5 gatekeeper would stop PD from running from ~/Desktop
or ~/Applications, for example, meaning something like Pd would need admin
privileges for proper installation I'm assuming. I am also assuming Pd is
not on the list of "Identified Developers" meaning admin installation is
required on University computers. this is unfortunate because often when
teaching I need to improvise on system that I have not used before and have
not given IT the one week or whatever to do an install....

any thought on this? specifically apple "Identified Developers",
gatekeeper, and Pd

m

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:08 AM, hans w. koch <hansw.koch at gmail.com> wrote:

> if mark is on 10.9.5, that might be the new more restrictive gatekeeper
> policy.
> there was a report about just that behaviour on the audacity dev list.
>
> h
> www.hans-w-koch.net
>
>
>
> Am 24.09.2014 um 17:00 schrieb Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com>:
>
> > Hrmm I unzipped and tried the app and it's working for me .. weird. Can
> you run it from the commandline and paste in the terminal output?
> >
> >
> > aka
> >
> > open Pd-0.46-0-64bit-retina.app
> >
> > On Sep 24, 2014, at 10:45 AM, me.grimm <megrimm at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> i get:
> >>
> >> “Pd-0.46-0-64bit-retina” is damaged and can’t be opened. You should
> move it to the Trash."
> >>
> >> but maybe that is because i do not have a retina display (mb 2010)
> >>
> >> why not fully cocoa-based tk 8.6?
> >>
> >> m
> >>
> >> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Ok retina Mac people, try this:
> http://docs.danomatika.com/Pd-0.46-0-64bit-retina.app.zip
> >>
> >> One problem is that the normal 10 point fonts are too thin IMO at the
> retina resolution:
> >>
> >> <retina.png><non retina.png>
> >>
> >> On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:17 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ok got it working. I had to touch the Pd app so the OS would reload
> the plist. Here's some comparison screenshots:
> >>>
> >>> <testtone retina.png>
> >>> <testtone no retina.png>
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:01 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Update:
> >>>>
> >>>> I updated the Wish binary aka MacOS/Pd in the Pd-0.46-0 from Miller's
> site with the one from my Tk 8.5 Wish.app. Enabling the
> NSHighResolutionCapable key in the Info.plist isn't working though. In any
> case, using TK 8.5 gives me nonaliased fonts & removes the extra
> "Preferences" entry in the File menu.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:56 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I got it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As it says in pd/mac/README.txt:
> >>>>> Note: The "wish-shell.tgz" is an archive of this app I found on my
> mac:
> >>>>> System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.4/Resources/Wish
> Shell.app
> >>>>> A smarter version of the scripts ought to be able to find that file
> >>>>> automatically on your system so I wouldn't have to include it here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We just need to use the 8.5 version of Wish. I can put together a
> script to do this if you want.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:28 AM, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I'll give this a look when I have some time.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Pd's app structure is copied from "Wish Shell.app" - it might work
> simply to
> >>>>>> build it using a different version of wish as a base.  If you want
> to try that
> >>>>>> yourself, I think you can just rebuild Pd using the build-macosx
> script in
> >>>>>> pd/mac, after having made a new version of a directory "stuff"
> containing
> >>>>>> wish-shell.tgz (an archive of whatever wish shell version you want)
> and the
> >>>>>> two auxilliary files pd.icns and pd-file.icns
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> cheers
> >>>>>> Miller
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:45:52AM -0400, Dan Wilcox wrote:
> >>>>>>> Does anyone know how I can clue Pd-vanilla in on using Tcl 8.5
> instead of 8.4? I tried changing the require version in pd-gui.tcl but no
> dice:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> version conflict for package "Tcl": have 8.4, need 8.5
> >>>>>>>    while executing
> >>>>>>> "package require Tcl 8.5"
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> OSX 10.8 has both 8.4 & 8.5 built in and it seems the default
> tclsh points to the 8.5 install, but it seems the method Pd uses to find
> Tcl & Wish.app end up choosing 8.4 instead.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anyway, I'm asking mainly because with 8.5 you can get "retina"
> screen enabled fonts which are nice and crisp as opposed to Pd's current
> blurry fonts. I remember trying this about 6 months ago after I got the
> machine but ran into the same problem and moved on. Would be nice to
> provide a patch and some info on how to make it work.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --------
> >>>>>>> Dan Wilcox
> >>>>>>> @danomatika
> >>>>>>> danomatika.com
> >>>>>>> robotcowboy.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --------
> >>>> Dan Wilcox
> >>>> @danomatika
> >>>> danomatika.com
> >>>> robotcowboy.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --------
> >>> Dan Wilcox
> >>> @danomatika
> >>> danomatika.com
> >>> robotcowboy.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --------
> >> Dan Wilcox
> >> @danomatika
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