[PD] Fwd: PDCon (was Updated pd-extended)

Mon Sep 29 18:32:37 CEST 2014

Somewhere in North-ish America would be nice. What about Mexico City?
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On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Chris McCormick <chris at mccormick.cx> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Random self-organising PdCon architecture idea:
>
>  1. Pick a location that matches the following criteria:
>    * Not too expensive to fly/get to for majority of people.
>    * Somewhere where bulk accommodation is cheap (e.g. camp site).
>    * Located close to amenities so people can organise their own food etc.
>
>  2. Pick a date.
>
>  3. Crowd-fund from this community the cost of hiring a large-ish camp
> style venue in that location for a few days or a week.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarCamp>
>
>  4. Run "bar camp" style self-organizing PdCon where participants
> nominate their own talks for the various time slots of the conference on
> a wiki such as a page on the pure-data.info site.
>
> With regards to (1) there must be suitable places in the USA that meet
> these criteria (although big cities like NY seem to be out) but it would
> also be fun to find a large venue somewhere like Bali or Manila or a
> small town in India (Hyderabad seems to have particularly cheap flights
> for some reason), Chile, rural Italy etc. The Southeast Asia region
> looks particularly attractive from a flight-cost point of view and
> amenities would generally be very cheap. Obviously it would need to be
> reasonably well connected so people can actually get there without too
> much expense/hassle. Where are the hidden gems that match this criteria?
>
> Self-organising conference by a group of Pure Data nerds in a place none
> of us has been before - what could possibly go wrong? ;)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris.
>
> On 27/09/14 19:23, Joseph Deken wrote:
> > I would like to feel that NB is always a *resource* and not a
> *constraint.*
> >
> > I'd be happy to help, especially if NB efforts would bring much more
> > *community contact* into the Pdcon setting.  ("Bring the person on the
> > street into the university" as I believe Jaime said about his new
> > Waverly Labs).
> >
> > I have direct evidence of Kansas including a large piece of flint and
> > some roadside wildflowers growing in a coffee mug in my car from the
> > Flint Hills.  In the Flint Hills you will also find the farm (along
> > I-70 in fact) where Connie grew up!  Evidence indeed.
> >
> > On Fri, 26 Sep 2014, Miller Puckette wrote:
> >
> >> One potential organizer is thinking about throwing a Pd convention in
> >> Kansas -
> >> I have no idea if it's a real possibility.
> >>
> >> I think UCSD would be a bad place for it since the cost of visiting
> >> here is so
> >> high - and UCSD always wants to rechanrge everything, so we'd end up
> >> being
> >> out tens of thousands of dollars.  OTOH, a lightweight organization in a
> >> cheap part of the coutry could throw a spectacular one.  And if there is
> >> enough synergy, New Blankets could join as a collaborator.
> >>
> >> That said I've never been to Kansas - I assume there actually is one
> >> but have
> >> only seen it in books.
> >>
> >> cheers
> >> Miller
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 06:52:17AM -0500, Joseph Deken wrote:
> >>> I can see "plus and minus" aspects.  One of the charms of PdWeekend
> >>> has been that it's just a small gathering of "Miller Puckette and
> >>> friends."  As it is, I've been able to make all the arrangements
> >>> single-handedly (allowing always various hiccups). So it's very
> >>> lightweight and I think that Miller's always willing to put it
> >>> on his crowded calendar because of that.
> >>>
> >>> PdCon would definitely allow more people to participate.  But I think
> >>> the
> >>> administration would be beyond my abilities/desires.  If e.g. Peter
> Otto
> >>> or someone wanted to put a PdCon together as a UCSD effort or some
> such,
> >>> of course I'd be glad to help with it.
> >>>
> >>> Last year and this year we had some (unfulfilled) ideas of useful
> >>> video recordings (This year, Sofy had planned to do Ustream but it
> >>> didn't happen).  So on a related matter I'd say that even if PdWeekend
> >>> stays small for the advantages of that, we should *try harder* next
> >>> year to produce effective video, networked live sessions, or other
> >>> means of widening the participation and the downstream benefits of our
> >>> little meeting.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, Jaime E Oliver wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> btw
> >>>>
> >>>> Have you ever considered a PdCon in San Diego?
> >>>>
> >>>> I am thinking it is like a Pd Weekend except a bit larger…
> >>>>
> >>>> best,
> >>>>
> >>>> J
> >>>>
> >>>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: "me.grimm" <megrimm at gmail.com>
> >>>>> Subject: [PD] PDCon (was Updated pd-extended)
> >>>>> Date: September 25, 2014 9:40:47 PM EDT
> >>>>> To: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
> >>>>> Cc: Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com>, "pd-list at lists.iem.at"
> >>>>> <pd-list at lists.iem.at>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> I was waiting for the american PdCon and it never happened
> >>>>>
> >>>>> hans and dan had talked about this. maybe it could still happen? ed
> >>>>> had talked about london once i remember in '09?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> guess I'll have to make another south american one
> >>>>>
> >>>>> brazil? or somewhere else in s. america? do it! your a great
> >>>>> organizer.... :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> m
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres
> >>>>> <porres at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> love those two ideas
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I could also add the idea of having some research group working on
> >>>>> it. At least here in Brazil I know a couple of people who'd like to
> >>>>> back it up.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> so yeah, I was waiting for the american PdCon and it never happened
> >>>>> :( guess I'll have to make another south american one
> >>>>>
> >>>>> cheers
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2014-09-21 18:19 GMT-03:00 me.grimm <megrimm at gmail.com>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> it involves time
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ... or money.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> maybe we revisit the kickstarter (or something else) idea brought
> >>>>> forth by jonathon a few years ago and just pay someone to do it. to
> >>>>> me it seems like 1) none of us really have any money (im just
> >>>>> assuming here we are all poor artists) and more importantly 2) none
> >>>>> of us really have any time and those that do might not have the
> >>>>> skills.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> OR maybe we have another PDCon (remember that?) to get amped up and
> >>>>> pump something out....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> m
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> I talked to Hans about this a bit. In essence, it involves bringing
> >>>>> in the new pd vanilla source and making sure the Pd-extended
> >>>>> additions/modifications aren't lost. With the updates/cleanups to
> >>>>> the tcl/tk sources a few years ago (great work Hans et al!), it
> >>>>> should be alot easier than the previous extended releases. But
> >>>>> still, *easy* or not, it involves time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:00 AM, pd-list-request at lists.iem.at wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> From: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [PD] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Updated pd-extended
> >>>>>> Date: September 20, 2014 at 5:02:59 PM EDT
> >>>>>> To: Billy Stiltner <billy.stiltner at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> Cc: "pd-list at lists.iem.at" <pd-list at lists.iem.at>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I wish I knew something about coding to help out with its
> >>>>>> development :P I do care a lot about it though and wish I could
> >>>>>> help in some other way.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I do see a few problems with extended, but they're basically
> >>>>>> related to some of the externals and libraries that sometimes do
> >>>>>> not work as they should, have bad and messy help files and are
> >>>>>> sometimes redundanct. If welcome, I could help sharing my thoughts
> >>>>>> and two cents about that, but I realize those are not actual bug
> >>>>>> fixes regarding the code, so it's not a priority on its to do list
> >>>>>> and issues for being updated to another release.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Anyway, while were at it, what kind of work exactly do you mean
> >>>>>> someone would have to do? I suppose there is a great list of bug
> >>>>>> fixes just to keep it basically what it is. Given the context, I'm
> >>>>>> not assuming any big to do list for some new features agenda. But
> >>>>>> besidesthe bug fixes, how hard is it for someone to just update to
> >>>>>> the latest vanilla core?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Well, since Pd is an open source project that relies on community
> >>>>>> effort, and this is the list of its main developers and users, I
> >>>>>> guess this is the place to talk about a collaboration and see if
> >>>>>> we can get Pd-extended's development
> >>>>>> to continue.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'd to help in any way I can.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --------
> >>>>> Dan Wilcox
> >>>>> @danomatika
> >>>>> danomatika.com
> >>>>> robotcowboy.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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