[PD] "list foreach"?

Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 10 09:48:48 CEST 2014


One last clarification-- I'm saying that I use the development process Chris outlines to do work on all flavors.  What frustrated me on this thread is the idea of a process where the community suggests or votes for certain features, and Miller adds them.  That model is too conservative-- it leads to fewer developers actually looking at the core code and (potentially) improving things.

-Jonathan



On Friday, October 10, 2014 3:14 AM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list <pd-list at lists.iem.at> wrote:
 


Hi Chris,
     I've used the same development process for Pd-extended and Vanilla as I have with Pd-l2ork.  It is pretty close to the general outline you gave in this thread.  There is no difference in working relationship-- I send patches, write emails, test changes, say snarky things, etc.

But I'll happily work with you to improve Pd Vanilla and get as many improvements as possible from Pd-l2ork ported
 into it.  Which improvements you'd like to port.

-Jonathan



On Friday, October 10, 2014 1:39 AM, Chris McCormick <chris at mccormick.cx> wrote:
 


On 10/10/14 12:26, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>      That's all great advice in general.  But then there's this thread
> in particular, where at least two perfectly capable developers chose to
> advocate for a trivial feature to be added to Pd rather than taking
 10
> minutes to implement it and make a "small, clean, self contained patch"
> as you suggest.  Why do you think that is?

My guess is that we all have busy lives outside Pd.

My first instinct was to do work that I will get paid for this morning
instead, but then I realised this may be an opportunity to change things
for the better in our community, and therefore for myself. Selfish!

Now my daughter will get a lump of coal for xmas and I will have to tell
her that it is because I spent all my time arguing with people on my
computer instead
 of earning money.

> In the meantime I'll continue doing exactly the healthy development
> process you describe, in Pd-l2ork.

Sounds good! Nice one.

I realise that following the same process with Miller's Pd is more
difficult because Miller is more conservative about what he accepts into
Pd than Ico, and you have not built the same working relationship with
him. My hunch is that a greater number of users will benefit if you try
to follow
 the same process on Miller's Pd as well.

I am not trying to coerce you.

Cheers,


Chris.

-- 
http://mccormick.cx/



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