[PD] data structures......

Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at yahoo.com
Mon Nov 17 05:50:13 CET 2014


On 11/16/2014 10:55 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> my two cents is that the data structures are still a bit buggy to work 
> on. Just hoped they'd be more stable, other than that, can't relate to 
> the commotion, cheers

What kinds of bugs are you running into?

-Jonathan

>
> 2014-11-13 13:45 GMT-02:00 Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list 
> <pd-list at lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list at lists.iem.at>>:
>
>     It's certainly possible.  There's a Pd-l2ork script for creating a
>     "vanilla" tarball with the l2ork changes in it, so I guess you
>     could try dropping the src and extra from that into libpd's
>     pure-data directory and see what happens.
>
>     But I don't know much about libpd.
>
>     -Jonathan
>
>
>     On Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:38 AM, i go bananas
>     <hard.off at gmail.com <mailto:hard.off at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     in relation to Pd-l2ork,
>
>     guys, what's the status of having a 'libpd' for l2ork???  is that
>     possible?
>
>     sorry for going off topic...but it is something i have wanted to
>     ask for ages.
>
>     On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:33 PM, i go bananas <hard.off at gmail.com>
>     wrote:
>
>         IOhannes,
>
>         that's kinda what i thought....
>
>         but really, come on...pd's interface is it's weakest point. 
>         When miller started working on the data structures, libpd and
>         all that didn't even exist.  But now, we can just farm out
>         that sort of stuff to other programs.
>
>         Compared to the amount of effort it takes to learn them, and
>         how effective they actually are, data structures are just too
>         un-economical.
>
>         in nearly 15 years of their existence, i think i can still
>         count on both hands how many good implementations of them i
>         have seen.
>
>         look, i LOVE pd and couldn't live without it....but it just
>         seems like any minute spent on data structures is a minute
>         that could be way better spent on other stuff.
>
>
>
>
>         On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:54 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig
>         <zmoelnig at iem.at> wrote:
>
>             On 11/12/2014 03:33 PM, i go bananas wrote:
>             >
>             > couldn't that work be put to better use?
>             >
>
>             depends on your definition of "better".
>
>             if i understand correctly, "data structures" have been
>             _the_ motivation
>             for writing Pd (as opposed to continue with max), so i
>             think we owe them :-)
>
>             gfmrdsa
>             IOhannes
>
>
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