[PD] Cyclone help patches & issue list

Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 17 04:05:11 CET 2014

Well, you can peruse the tracker's open patches to get a sense of whether you can (or if it's worth your time to try).  Keep in mind the Pd-l2ork gui prefs code started out as a patch specifically written as a clean, small patch to get into Vanilla/Extended.


     On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:04 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com> wrote:

 Sorry, I didn;t mean to sound like I'm griping. The nature of the question was more "if we apply clean, small patches to vanilla, could we get some of Han's updates in so they aren't lost to non Pd-l2ork users". I'm in the middle of writing my thesis right now, but getting into real Pd development again is on my list when I'm finally done with it.
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com> wrote:
  On 12/16/2014 03:12 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
  I like how I explicitly asked to not hear that "Pd-l2ork has that" and yet that's the response I got. I already knew this anyway from the sample screenshots you were posting when you were implementing it. (Looks great BTW)  
 Yeah, I know, it was 100% willful snark on my part.  It's kind of like you were asking, "Is there a way to do X, while satisfying my irrational desire to ignore a working solution by someone who likely already did X?"
 Anyway, did you look at the code?  It's done in tcl/tk, and it does not depend on tkpath.  So if you don't want to duplicate all the work I already did, you can fairly easily port that back to Pd Vanilla.  There might be a few API differences in accessing the audio backend, but there are small and I don't mind helping make those changes.
 Also, I specifically did everything in tcl/tk so that the patch would be as simple as possible.  It shouldn't even require a recompile.  Now, I haven't looked at Ivica's changes that added persistence.  But all versions of Pd have the same prefs-saving code so that shouldn't be difficult, either.
  Also, if you didn't know, why respond? :P  
 Because the answer to your question ultimately depends on whether what you come up with fits the unspoken yet stringent HIG standards imposed by Miller's Pd.
 But that doesn't mean that code which does _exactly_ what you're asking about isn't relevant to your question.
  On 12/15/2014 06:21 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
 If that does become a real scenario, I hope we can find a way to bring some of the Pd-extended UI changes into vanilla, such as the  pixel perfect sizing across platforms, an option for the extended coloring (graytones) etc. Before anyone says “Pd-Lork has that”, I’m just wondering if it’s feasible to bring in some of the work Hans did after the gui cleanup which is already in vanilla.
 In answer to your question: I don't know.
 Having answered that...
 Pd-l2ork has gui theme presets for Vanilla, Inverted Vanilla, Pd-extended, Commodore 64, Strongbad's Compy, and a few others.  There's also an interface to make a custom theme-- I didn't make it persistent but I think Ivica added that ability.
  --   Dan Wilcox

Dan Wilcox

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