[PD] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Extending Vanilla (was Cyclone help patches & issue list)
Alexandre Torres Porres
porres at gmail.com
Fri Dec 19 13:47:28 CET 2014
Yep Alessio. It's time to mean business. So I volunteer
*1. Identify which externals to include in the repo (for linux users, the
folder /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra can be a good starting point)*
The Pd extended libraries is a good starting point for all OS users, I
guess. Not that I love all that there is there. IMHO there's a lot of junk.
Even in the libraries I've mentioned I can't live without and are
considered to be more stable I see some issues. Most of all, I'm usually
unhappy about some help files that are quite crappy (like incomplete,
sometimes the help files don't even work and you have to tweak them to hear
Other stuff I see, for example... just yesterday I learned about a new
object for me, [LFO_noise~], and it's not working properly (it's frequency
is twice than it should be). Other than that, it is redundanct, there are
also two other objects that do exactly the same: [rand~] from cyclone and
[noisi~] from zexy. I'd say just throw this "extra not working properly one
So I can volunteer to manage some of these libraries and rewrite the help
files so that they are also vanilla compatible (that is, they don't call
objects from other libraries, other than the ones from the same library).
I can't code! And I've compiled anything only a couple of times in my life.
So I can't really help much with coding, and that's why I'd rather throw
something away that doesn't properly work and has alternatives from other
libraries. But I don't oppose if someone wants to fix stuff. I remember it
wasn't exactly rock science to compile libraries, so I guess I can try and
do it for the latest MAC OS systems on intel machines.
2014-12-19 9:51 GMT-02:00 Alessio Degani <alessio.degani at ymail.com>:
> At this point I think that we can start to talk about technical stuff
> like roadmap, tasks, volunteers recruitment and so on :)
> The basic steps, IMHO, can be:
> 1. Identify which externals to include in the repo (for linux users, the
> folder /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra can be a good starting point)
> 2. Identify which externals need to be compiled (some of them, as far as I
> rememer, are not "true" external library, but a pd patch [intrinsically
> 3. Identify which externals are mainteined/unmaintained, and eventually,
> contact the maintainers just to say: "hello, we are creating a shared repo
> of externals. Are you interested? and so on..."
> 4. Prioritize (i.e. most used extensions have the priority).
> 5. Assign tasks
> In that context, a web platform can help to accomplish this preliminary
> steps. For example github (that has a project wiki), or Azendoo (free -and
> simple!- collaborative project management), to name a few. I'm not an
> expert of this platform, but I use github for small projects and IMHO,
> Azendoo (or something like that) it can help a lot for discussions, task
> management and so on, without flooding the mailing list :)
> Here is just my thoughts... any idea/suggestion/alternative are
> appreciated! :)
> On 18/12/2014 20:50, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> Well, for starters, there could just be a repository with externals and
> libraries :)
> I'm willing to help somehow. I'm not a programmer only, but I can help
> organising it and stuff. Testing libraries, listing it, etc.
> 2014-12-18 17:34 GMT-02:00 IOhannes m zmölnig <zmoelnig at iem.at>:
>> On 12/18/2014 08:16 PM, Samuel Burt wrote:
>> > 1. Opening a patch with [import cyclone] would automatically download
>> i *strongly* oppose to anything that automatically connects to the
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