[PD] Pd node-webkit port

[Jonathan Wilkes]

Is there a demo of the user experience for displaying and navigating subpatches in Noflo?
-Jonathan


     On Monday, February 2, 2015 12:25 PM, s p <sebpiq at gmail.com> wrote:
   

 Hi! Sorry for the slow answer. I've asked Forrest who is the developer for NoFlo-ui, and he answered that there is indeed subpatch support for noflo-ui. He suggests that if we are interested we should use directly noflo-ui, because it already runs the-graph which is just the raw graph library, and supports a simple protocol to add/remove/connect and so on nodes. He says there would be a bit of work to make it feel / look more like Pd, but I think they are interested as well as they would like to have more flexibility in there to support other use cases. He also linked me to somebody's repo who did exactly what I mention above for SuperCollider : https://github.com/jonnor/sndflo

I'm going to start experimenting with this as soon as I have a bit of time (next week should be good), and I'll come back to you if interested :)

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Sébastien,
Is there a small example of something like subpatching using that framework?  Most of the docs I've read on NoFlo seem to treat the concept as an afterthought.  There seems to be an emphasis on organizing large diagrams along the lines of train maps, which I think is the wrong metaphor.
-Jonathan
 

     On Sunday, January 25, 2015 5:01 AM, s p <sebpiq at gmail.com> wrote:
   

 Hi Jonathan!

(pinging Martin Roth who is currently messing around with Pd and web audio as well)

Yes I am pretty sure it does implement subpatches.

As for copy/paste that's another problem. I have never seen something such as copy/pasting graphical objects from one html page to another ... but nothing's impossible!!!

Something I am more concerned about is the ability to create controls (buttons, number boxes, ...). I think it wasn't really designed for this purpose.

On the other hand, even if the whole UI ends up not being a good match, several of it's components (for example auto layout, and so on) have been released as separate open-source packages so a possibility would be to build on top of those.

In the next few weeks, I'll be finalizing WebPd refactor to Web Audio, and then if you want we can keep in touch and in sync to test this noflo UI in a pd context!

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com> wrote:

One question I have about the noflo UI is whether it supports the concept of subpatching.  I want to define a box's function by zooming into it and filling it with more boxes.
It's not a difficult UI to imagine.  But to even have parity with Pd's scattered toplevel windows there would additionally need to be a way to quickly navigate from one branch to any other in the tree, and to pair distant branches in order to copy/paste content.  (For example, think of putting a patch window next to a subpatch window you got from opening three nested abstractions deep into a help-document.  If you're copying an object chain from that subpatch, you don't want those three parent patches in your view.)

Atm I'm just punting by using the multi-window UI that tcl/tk has.  But if there's a way to work the idea of navigating subpatches into that framework, that'd be great.

-Jonathan
 

     On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 10:07 PM, Chris McCormick <chris at mccormick.cx> wrote:
   

 On 22/01/15 02:44, s p wrote:
> I was actually
> planning to use this : https://github.com/the-grid/the-graph which is a
> generic data flow UI library for the web. It is so well done, works
> great on touch interface, so I thought why the heck reinventing the
> wheel.

http://the-grid.github.io/the-graph/the-graph-editor/index.html

Wow! Beautiful.

This user interface plugged into a layer that can plug into libpd and/or
WebPd would be magical.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAUOPHqx5Gs

Cheers,

Chris.

-- 
http://mccormick.cx/

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