[PD] speech recognition and ethics

david medine dmedine at ucsd.edu
Sat Feb 7 20:12:46 CET 2015


One of the bad things about Google is that it is essentially a giant 
billboard. Having said that, I am going to advertise a couple of things.

If you want a speech recognition API that doesn't rely on a tax-exempt 
corporation that has more money than the nation of Russia, builds its 
products in unsafe overseas sweatshops, charges you $99/year to develop 
software for the device you already paid for, eagerly aids the federal 
government in unconstitutional spying, or is in the process of 
assimilating all of human culture, you might want to check CMU's speech 
recognition toolkit, Sphinx.
http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/

Another advantage of Sphinx is that it doesn't rely on internet access 
to decode speech. And, someone even wrote a simple Pd extern with Sphinx.
https://github.com/dmedine/recog_tilde

And yes, it is quite difficult to train Sphinx. Building a dictionary is 
copious work, and Google and Apple have done it 1000 better than anyone 
else because they have mountains of data and cash and luxury model 
machine learning algorithms. . . but no one ever said DIY was easy.

On 2/7/15 9:55 AM, Spencer Russell wrote:
> I saw a really interesting talk last year by Johan Schalkwyk, the head 
> of the Google speech recognition group. One of the points he made was 
> that while Google's algorithms are important, they got a lot more 
> leverage from the sheer amount of data they have access to. It allows 
> them to get away with much simpler algorithms. I think that's one of 
> the biggest problems with trying to compete with Google and Apple on 
> speech recognition, because OSS developers just don't have access to a 
> huge corpus of data.
> Even though a lot of that data is unlabeled (they don't know what the 
> actual words are that correspond to the audio), they have a huge 
> amount of interaction data, so they can for instance look at whether 
> the user tried multiple times with a particular phrase or whether the 
> user accepted a given transcription.
> It seems like if we want an open-source speech recognition package we 
> should focus on finding ways to get an accessible shared corpus. 
> Unless there was some tricky licensing I think that corpus would also 
> benefit the big guys though, so their corpus would remain a proper 
> superset of what's available to OSS developers.
> On Sat, Feb 7, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote:
>> Hi list,
>> Here's a fun thought-experiment: suppose you're doing a port of Pd, 
>> and the graphics toolkit you're using will include functionality to 
>> hook in to Google's speech recognition API.  Such an API could make 
>> the software accessible to people who would otherwise find it very 
>> hard to write Pd patches.
>> However, the API works by shipping off your audio data to Google's 
>> servers, doing the computation on their machines, and sending you 
>> back the results.
>> Do you use the API in your port, or not?
>> I'm decidedly not going to use that API, for what I think are obvious 
>> security, privacy, and philosophical reasons.  But I'm curious just 
>> how obvious the security and privacy implications are to others 
>> here.  How many people would use a speech-patching mechanism that 
>> sends all your speech to Google?
>> I'm also increasingly worried by the apparent gap between the 
>> usability of Google and Apple's products, and the seemingly glacial 
>> pace at which _usable_ free software speech recognition is being 
>> developed.  My position won't change, but I'm afraid it's becoming 
>> more symbolic than practical as these insecure tools become a natural 
>> part of most people's lives.
>> -Jonathan
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