[PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 120, Issue 8
danomatika at gmail.com
Fri Mar 6 13:44:30 CET 2015
Sounds like a simple enough abstraction. Maybe this is something we can add to libpd.
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On Mar 5, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 03/05/2015 01:50 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
>> Sounds good. How are you handling getting the object graph info into and out of the pd core? I might be able to add patch display/editing on iOS ...
> This is incremental, so at the moment I'm massive search/replacing all sys_vgui calls with gui_vmess. That might sound difficult-- and it is-- but it's the only sane approach given how Pd's editing environment works. To do otherwise would mean to understand _every_ idiosyncracy of garrays, subpatches, graph-on-parent, fonts, etc., meaning you'd either end up burned out or with a GUI that doesn't support all the features Pd users have gotten comfortable with.
> Thus, I don't have to have a spec for Pd in my head and can pleasantly hit milestones. It took me about two weeks to realize I hadn't done any work to implement the concept of subpatches, but nonetheless they were already fully implemented and working in the GUI. :)
> Anyway, here are the increments I see:
> 1) Change sys_vgui to gui_vmess. (In progress)
> 2) Refactor some functions on C side to do text edition on GUI side in HTML5 (that's what it's good at, after all), do box hit detection in the GUI, and simplify array/plot redrawing/resizing.
> 3) Think about ways to make Pd a single-window application. For a simple example-- one could draw iemgui properties dialogs inside a div, instead of in its own window like it I'm currently doing. I'm not sure you could ever do _everything_ inside a single page, but the point is that doing so makes porting to any other toolkit or form-factor much easier.
> Of course you can port Pd to IOS or Android without doing #3, but I'd imagine it would either have much reduced functionality or be very difficult to use.
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>
>>> To: pd-list at lists.iem.at
>>> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 17:15:10 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [PD] Updating Pd-Extended
>>> On 03/03/2015 10:42 AM, João Pais wrote:
>>>> I can't do anything active (i.e. edit scripts, etc), but I could follow instructions - in case they're clear, and correct.
>>> I'm making progress on the port of the GUI from Tk to Node-Webkit (or nw.js as its now called). I've got the iemgui properties dialogs finished, plus some basic internationalization.
>>> There is still a lot of development left to do, but already I can run patches, open/close subpatches, display data structures and interact with iemguis. Once it has feature parity with Tk it will essentially be a replacement for Pd-Extended for Linux, OSX, and Windows (7 and beyond).
>>> What version of Windows are you using these days? It looks like going forward nw.js will only compile on 64-bit versions of Windows, but it currently has 32-bit binaries.
>> Dan Wilcox
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