[PD] So [bang~] can't "bang" in less than 64 blocksize, huh?

Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at yahoo.com
Sun Mar 15 17:55:54 CET 2015


snapshot~ is to vsnapshot~ what line~ is to vline~.
Did you read the chapter of Miller's book which he linked to here? 


     On Saturday, March 14, 2015 11:55 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com> wrote:
   

 moreover, [snapshot~] will also print 64 equal values of the last value in a 64 block even if the patch is running at a block size of "1", being this kind of behaviour my biggest surprise that i point in this thread.
2015-03-14 12:17 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>:

> snapshot~ will always output the last sample from an audio block of 64
This sounded strange at first to me, but it makes sense if you consider
that snapshot~'s role is to give you one audio sample from the audio
stream. Since you will only receive messages in between audio blocks the
last sample in a vector is the one that is closest (in timing) to the
point at which you receive the value in the gui.


For snapshot, I know I ran proper tests as I was comparing it to vsnapshot~, meaning that it wasn't constricted to the bang gui behaviour. So sending bangs at every sample did only spit out 64 equal values of the last sample in the block - whereas [vsnapshot~] can give a value for each sample.
cheers



2015-03-14 12:13 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>:

> print~ will always start printing from the beginning of a 64 block period
The same here. Perhaps it helps to see print~ as the object that gives
you one audio block as numbers rather than an 'audio rate print' that
does things faster than message timing.

I also meant that it can't help but start from a 64 block boundary, even if the block is less, such as "1", but I think that this is because the bang button is always aligned to a 64 block tick, as I pointed out later, so I may have to run other tests to see how [print~] actually behaves with different size blocks.
cheers
2015-03-14 6:21 GMT-03:00 Peter P. <peterparker at fastmail.com>:

* Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com> [2015-03-14 07:36]:
> It seems there are other objects that somehow restrict themselves to a 64
> size block minimum.
>
> print~ will always start printing from the beginning of a 64 block period
The same here. Perhaps it helps to see print~ as the object that gives
you one audio block as numbers rather than an 'audio rate print' that
does things faster than message timing.

> snapshot~ will always output the last sample from an audio block of 64
This sounded strange at first to me, but it makes sense if you consider
that snapshot~'s role is to give you one audio sample from the audio
stream. Since you will only receive messages in between audio blocks the
last sample in a vector is the one that is closest (in timing) to the
point at which you receive the value in the gui.







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