[PD] GEM Motion Capture

Wed Mar 18 16:30:18 CET 2015

>> iGlasses, a 20$ shareware available as a 7 days trial demo (and one of
the few still actively maintained applications of this type) was our last
try,
>> and... bingo ! : detected and working with Pd-extended and [pix_video]

yes this does work! I just tried it! Thanks!

m

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Nicolas Lhommet <nlhommet at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> Despite the many selfish and pretentious morons who should be ban from
> teaching, and their usual shameless and disgusting whining (long version :
> "me me me, i'm important, my students, my university, my situation,  i'm an
> artist, i only speak for myself, i'm an expert, i'm pertinent, i'm the
> prophet chosen to illuminate the mind of masses,contracted (by other
> morons) to teach what i want to teach, and you do understand that i'm
> called to a higher mission than taking the burden of the meanest tasks, SO
> OBEY AND DO YOUR F*CKING DIRTY JOB ! NOW HURRY UP AND FOLLOW THE PACE OF
> CUPERTINO'S ARMIES, YOU MISERABLE SLAVES, so i can continue to enjoy the
> undeserved praise for free and get more education money to forward to a
> multi-billionaire manufacturer in exchange of a shinny macbook. And rejoice
> that one day perhaps i may leave you a tip !"....
> yeah no intention to flame. apologies if taken that way ;)
>
> Let me bring my very own perspective to this debate (it's my turn for the
> "me me" moment) : last days, i spent some time to find a simple workaround
> for this very issue with webcams. I don't have a mac, but i only tried to
> find a reasoned solution to this problem (like most people do on the list)
> for the sake of the community of this great FREE software (thanks for all
> this generous work) after someone asked about it on the french forum
> codelab.fr (sadly the same person didn't provide any help in testing the
> proposed fixes... guess what : another university teacher!). Eventually i
> had to join some weekly "hacking" free meeting in my city today to find
> Fabrice Jorge, who i didn't know but was kind enough to let me try
> different software on his (2013?) Macbook Air with system 10.9.5, including
> Pd-extended 0.43.4 which (fortunately!) was affected :)
>
> Anyway, back to the subject and an actual workaround of 'error -9405' :
> idea was to use a "webcam enhancer" (typically used to "decorate" video
> chat) as a "passtrough", hoping it would present a virtual interface that
> could be properly handled by [pix_video], while taking care of the
> compatibilty with recent integrated webcam drivers (which is especially
> expected from software you PAY for).
>
> Manycam, the most popular utility of this kind, was not tested because
> logo watermark can't be remove in free version anymore, and the price of a
> licence is ridiculously high.
> CamTwist which is a freeware (therefore an obvious choice) is not
> maintained for some time, and virtual webcam never appeared in video input
> settings of any application... same thing with the latest beta. The latter
> is supposed to bring Yosemite support, and this failure could have been
> specific to the test system, so it could worth a try.
>
> iGlasses, a 20$ shareware available as a 7 days trial demo (and one of the
> few still actively maintained applications of this type) was our last try,
> and... bingo ! : detected and working with Pd-extended and [pix_video] !
> Now, this has not been extensively tested at all, your mileage may vary
> with any of these options and, as a workaround requiring additionnal
> (commercial) software, this is far from ideal, and may present many caveats
> (stability, resolution, framerate...). But i hope it could prove useful as
> a temporary solution for nice people like Joshua, and unfortunate students
> too :) so more thorough tests and reports are welcome.
> Cheers
> Nicolas
>
>
> 2015-03-12 17:59 GMT+01:00 me.grimm <megrimm at gmail.com>:
>
>> >> Anyway, I may have scared up some funding to support me for a week to
>> do this in the summer. I'll chime back in when I know more details
>>
>> yeah no intention to flame. apologies if taken that way.
>>
>> no i just teach what i want to teach. thats what im contracted to do
>> which is dependent on my own expertise as an artist. there is no specific
>> requirement at all here other than Mac/OSX/Adobe CC ... the rest is all
>> instructor based but then again I only speak for myself.
>>
>> if i can find more funding (which i might have) ill send it your way!
>>
>> m
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> To be fair, people work on what is important to them, so no need to
>>> flame. I'd suggest that a university program that *requires* PD should at
>>> least be willing to fund/support it's development instead of using it as a
>>> cheap alternative to Max and then *hoping* that "open source" will do that
>>> for them.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I may have scared up some funding to support me for a week to do
>>> this in the summer. I'll chime back in when I know more details
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:23 PM, me.grimm <megrimm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> >> disclaimer: i love linux and probably are not un-biased.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed!
>>>>
>>>> But unfortunately, here, students of Transmedia (Syracuse U) are
>>>> required to buy a Mac freshmen year and are taught on osx systems/programs
>>>> throughout their 4 undergraduate years. we (pd community) keeps loosing
>>>> them to max/msp/jitter people/teachers here which is tragic in my opinion
>>>> and gets me quite heated....
>>>>
>>>> It is pertinent to note I have 60+ art/design/media students this
>>>> semester all being introduced to Pd in some capacity and when it starts
>>>> crashing and they lose their work they get quite turned off, not just with
>>>> Pd but with programming as a artist/art student in general.....
>>>>
>>>> I am sure the knowledge here in this community and on this list can
>>>> pull together and help rectify the situation....
>>>>
>>>> johannes, dan, antoine and others have done awesome with Gem .... its
>>>> really an amazing lib and if i could take a semester off and learn how to
>>>> code better I would! maybe there are students interested in helping out?
>>>> others that want to learn coding on OSX?
>>>>
>>>> my 2 cents on pd's osx future:
>>>>
>>>> fuck pd-extended (hans is dead god rest his pd soul)
>>>> fuck pd-l20rk (is there any chance of an OSX 64 bit build with native
>>>> Gem plugs? prob not....)
>>>>
>>>> CORE PD + GEM .... that is all that is necessary at the moment. Almost
>>>> everything else can be abstractions....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> it seems like a lot of time is wasted on bullshit curved elbowed cables
>>>> and the like....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> m
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "IOhannes m zmölnig" <zmoelnig at iem.at>
>>>>>> To: pd-list at lists.iem.at
>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 22:19:23 +0100
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PD] GEM Motion Capture
>>>>>> On 03/11/2015 08:45 PM, Joshua Curley wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I also am using the latest updated from Apple: Yosemite
>>>>>>
>>>>>> most likely this is the problem.
>>>>>> Gem still uses QuickTime for accessing the video devices on OSX, and
>>>>>> afaik, yosemite has finally abandoned QT even on i386.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 32 bit is pretty much done on OS X anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> so i think there are a number of possibilities:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - downgrade to some older version of OSX
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No that easy, unless you have an older backup.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> - convince (bribe, intimidate,...) someone with OSX knowledge and
>>>>>> reasonable ObjC/C++ knowledge to write an AVFoundation plugin for Gem
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> - upgrade to an operating system that does not deprecate another core
>>>>>> component of their OS whenever they make a new release¹.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Quicktime has been deprecated since 10.7. We had plenty of warning.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ¹ disclaimer: i love linux and probably are not un-biased.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes :D
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dan Wilcox
>>>>> @danomatika
>>>>> danomatika.com
>>>>> robotcowboy.com
>>>>>
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>>
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