[PD] [PD-announce] WebPd 0.3.0 released

[Jonathan Wilkes]

On 05/07/2015 01:56 AM, s p wrote:
> > 1) removing tcl specific code from the c code, replacing with 
> something that looks similar to pd_vmess
>
> I am curious, why not using libpd?

Because it lacks infinite undo, presets, and various other improvements 
that exist already in Pd-l2ork
and have been used/tested there.

But if you are asking why I'm incrementally porting the tcl/tk gui calls 
instead of starting fresh with
a new interface on top of libpd, it's because building a new GUI from 
scratch (and remaining backwards
compatible) is simply too difficult.

-Jonathan

>
> > 2) porting the gui to nw.js (toolkit that is node.js + chromium + a 
> few OS hooks)
>
> So when the porting is done all the GUI code is JS/HTML/SVG/CSS ?

Yes.  That means a patch can be inspected using devtools-- frames per 
second displayed in realtime, repaint areas
highlighted in realtime, js profiling, DOM point-and-click inspection...

Actually that last one has made several subtle bugs much easier to 
squash.  Instead of reading reams of socket
data, you can sometimes just spot duplicated or erroneous elements in 
the DOM.  (Plus turn CSS attrs on and off...)

It's like programming in the 21st century. :)

-Jonathan

>
> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 3:49 AM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:jancsika at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 05/06/2015 01:36 AM, s p wrote:
>>     @Jonathan great! Is there somewhere we can test it? So can you
>>     explain how does it work a bit, what did you do exactly. Is it a
>>     reimplementation? In which language?
>
>     It's basically two things:
>     1) removing tcl specific code from the c code, replacing with
>     something that looks similar to pd_vmess
>     2) porting the gui to nw.js (toolkit that is node.js + chromium +
>     a few OS hooks)
>
>     -Jonathan
>
>
>>
>>     On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:34 AM, s p <sebpiq at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:sebpiq at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         > it could be nice to have a desktop version of PD that is restricted to only have the
>>         objects that WebPD
>>
>>         Would be nice indeed! But I think after a bit of fiddling,
>>         checking out the list here :
>>         https://github.com/sebpiq/WebPd/blob/master/OBJECTLIST.md and
>>         debugging, you quickly understand what you can do or not.
>>
>>         On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:39 AM, Chris McCormick
>>         <chris at mccormick.cx <mailto:chris at mccormick.cx>> wrote:
>>
>>             Hi Billy,
>>
>>             On 05/05/15 14:40, Billy Stiltner wrote:
>>             > What about ofx pd for droid?
>>             > cant you run vanilla pd on an android?
>>
>>             Yep, Antoine Rousseau's new work with Pd + OFX and
>>             PdDroidParty both let
>>             you do that.
>>
>>             > The thing about browser based stuff is syncing the
>>             graphics with the dsp.
>>
>>             As Sebastian pointed out the best way to ensure that is
>>             to use the
>>             audio-clock is the master of all timing, just as it is in
>>             native Pd.
>>
>>             Cheers,
>>
>>             Chris.
>>
>>             --
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