[PD] Granular Synthesis for Pd Eurorack Module

Pagano, Patrick pat at digitalworlds.ufl.edu
Mon May 18 21:03:53 CEST 2015


I am invoking it with -audiodev 3

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On May 18, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Chris Chronopoulos <chronopoulos.chris at gmail.com<mailto:chronopoulos.chris at gmail.com>> wrote:


How are you invoking the PD command? If you're using an external sound card, you need to specify which one with the -audiodev flag. If it's a USB interface, then it's probably -audiodev 3 you want, in my experience.

_chris

On May 18, 2015 1:51 PM, "Pagano, Patrick" <pat at digitalworlds.ufl.edu<mailto:pat at digitalworlds.ufl.edu>> wrote:

I am having one annoying issue.

when i run the code i have with a gui the sound works but when i try to run pd -nogui i do not get any sound

with the GUI it polls from the arduino and it makes sound i can adjustthe potentiometers and it sounds okay because the CPU is pegging at 97-100%

when i run it with no gui it is listing at about 27%

i cannot figure it out


has anyone had this problem before? surely there has got to be someone who has run into this?

pd-043.2 on rpi 512 with ardunio Uno

creative sound blaster Xfi GO! Pro USB sound card


HELP!!!




Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A
Audio and Projection Design Faculty
Digital Worlds Institute
University of Florida, USA
(352)294-2020<tel:%28352%29294-2020>
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Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 11:57 AM
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Cc: IOhannes m zmoelnig; pd-list at mail.iem.at<mailto:pd-list at mail.iem.at>
Subject: Re: [PD] Granular Synthesis for Pd Eurorack Module

For messing around the UDOO is fine, but totally unsuitable for incorporating in a manufactured audio product.  The Pd part is easy, the hardware is incredibly difficult.

I actually design Eurorack modules with Tiptop Audio as my day job, and can tell you that making a module using an advanced ARM chip is no easy task.  The Nebulae is a quick, dirty hack and it has many issues.  Design from the ground up around an A9 or similar chip requires very advanced tools (we pay a huge annual sum for high end layout software) and about 10 years of mixed signal PCB design experience.  Keeping the audio clean would take multiple revisions of a 10-12 layer board and you would need to make a Eurorack power supply that can handle the current of the digital parts.

It would take well into 6 figures to get a fully functional production ready prototype.

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Pagano, Patrick <pat at digitalworlds.ufl.edu<mailto:pat at digitalworlds.ufl.edu>> wrote:

Looks great Chris, only thing that is weird is that it's a mic input not a line in that i get with the creative card currently. Everything else looks fancy. Would you like my address to send it? :-)


I am going to take the idea to our Innovation Hub at University of Florida and pitch the idea for the module, if it goes they might give me some seed funding --then i can explore some different cards/boards. A friend is lending his BeagleBone Black. Seriously if you want to throw in with  us i'll give you p0ints later :-)


conspiring for a pd Module,


Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A
Audio and Projection Design Faculty
Digital Worlds Institute
University of Florida, USA
(352)294-2020<tel:%28352%29294-2020>
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Subject: Re: [PD] Granular Synthesis for Pd Eurorack Module

Have you seen the UDOO board that have multi-core A9 CPUs, analog audio I/O and an arduino compatible microcontroller already?

http://shop.udoo.org/usa/product/udoo-dual.html



On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Pagano, Patrick <pat at digitalworlds.ufl.edu<mailto:pat at digitalworlds.ufl.edu>> wrote:
Thank You all for your help so far
I have looked at Granola~, granita, my-grainer, dsis_munger and granny a port of Sakonda's famous Grain2.0 patch by bill orcutt, all of which failed because of the problem with compilation that Iohannes who is always so helpful mentions.

I have chosen to go with Martin's fabulous grainsamplerfx patch and modify it.
I have also found that ProcesoV8 and Johann's Monolog-x are wonderful candidates for a true pure data module.

I contacted Qu-bit Electronix with hopes of a complimentary board for my research but they are not in a position to help me. They make a wonderful product called Nebulae for Eurorack but it's just too expensive for my professor salary right now. I even asked if they had scratch and dent versions that they might let go of to no avail. It apparently takes pure data AND Csound code but it seems a little more bent towards Csound, but again this is just a quick observation.

I have successfully connected an arduino uno to 6 potentiometers and poll them with Hans' Arduino2pd patch
I am using a 1in/1out Creative Blaster go USB soundcard and Rpi see it and loads ALSA for it

I am experimenting now with getting the tty to be the same when i run RPI without Xwindows, i have created a few lines in the inittab to hopefully select that port each time but it's not working correctly. when i boot into X it polls and updates the Pots but when i only use commandline they are not talking to each other. The arduino is polling for sure but pd is not reacting.

Martin's patch with 6 very simple parameters sounds awesome

I would like to have  a RT Granular Patch working and then work backwrds from there because it will probably be the most processor intensive, I would like to create and awesome "Curtis Filter" like Dave Smith has released
http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/product/dsm01-curtis-filter-module/

Is there an example in OD that replicates such a Filter --2/4 pole resonant low-pass filter module?

The Nebulae uses samples and a microSD card for loading samples which i want to try to avoid, i would like to keep everything RT.

what do you all think?
Please make suggestions of patches you think might be worth testing.
I would like to manufacture the boards and design the prototype this summer since i cannot afford to direct my research to the Nebulae. This Fall i will have 30 graduate students coding with me so we will have ALOT to offer.

Patrick



Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A
Audio and Projection Design Faculty
Digital Worlds Institute
University of Florida, USA
(352)294-2020<tel:%28352%29294-2020>

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Subject: Re: [PD] Granular Synthesis on liv input?

On 2015-05-17 19:11, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
> It says that it's the wrong ELF class ELF CLASS64
>

you cannot use a binary for i386 or amd64 on a Raspberry Pi, which has
an arm processor.
you need to have a binary compiled esp. for this achitecture (read:
compile it yourself).

fgadmf
IOhannes


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