[PD] Patch acting weird with Pd 0.46.6

[Pierre Massat]

Dear all,

Just to give you my modest input on this discussion.
I just looked at IOhannes' last patch and now I got it. The mistake I made
was to believe that print would send the current value to the console at
each step of the loop (like print in a for loop in Python for instance),
and that the firing order just before the print only mattered at "micro"
level.
Now of course I understand why I was wrong, after looking up depth first on
the web.

I've been using Pd regularly for 7 years now, so I don't consider myself a
complete beginner. I use triggers a lot, and only use fan outs when I think
the order of events is not critical. For 7 years I've believed that
triggers only worked at "micro" level to sequence events that are on the
same "level". Of course now I know that this assumption was completely
wrong, and if I had tried harder to understand how events are sequenced at
"macro" (whole tree) level this would have been obvious.

Honestly I think that this particular problem should be explained much more
clearly in the manual, in the depthfirst example file, and perhaps in the
trigger help file. I wonder how many people in the pd-list would make the
same mistake.

Anyway, than you again for your enlightening responses.

Pierre.

2015-06-04 8:11 GMT+02:00 Chris McCormick <chris at mccormick.cx>:

> On 04/06/15 06:03, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote:
> > (And fanouts are more obvious than [trigger] objects wired in the
> wrong order, and especially where recursion is involved.)
>
> I am confused by this assertion. Can you explain like I am five?
>
> Probably my failing but I am unable to imagine a situation in which
> "fanouts are more obvious than [trigger]" and I don't understand the
> qualifier "especially where recursion is involved". How do you define
> "obvious" as used here?
>
> Last night I spent several hours tracking down a bug that turned out to
> be because I had used a fan-out instead of a trigger. I am not 100% sure
> if this backs up your point or refutes it but either way it sucked. :)
>
> I think I will continue to try and make myself use trigger objects
> instead of fan-outs to avoid that type of bug again.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris.
>
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