[PD] Cycle~ difference with Max5. Was: Update cyclone maintenance

[Fred Jan Kraan]

Hi Alexandre,

>> The offset can be set as argument and it works
> 
> I can't seem to make it work, how do you do it? can you send me a patch?

Here two patches. cycle~-test1.pd demonstrates the phase control using
the internal buffer. I do not quite understand if and how the offset
relates to the phase, but mixing two signals with a variable phase
displays addition and elimination. cycle~-test2.pd should demonstrate
the same with an external buffer~, but not having that I used an array.
This doesn't do what I expect. I will do some more investigation on what
it does.
> 
> It seems [cycle~] will only work with tables that are 512 in size. It
> can be of any size in max now, but  the help of Max 7 says: "This
> wavetable may be of any size, _/*but historically was limited to 512
> samples*/_." So maybe when [cyclone/cycle~] was made it was limited to
> 512... anyway, this size limitation was something I also raised here.

To keep maintenance to cyclone reasonable, I try to limit it to the
functionality of Max 5. The documentation for Max 5 is conveniently
online and I have a  installation available for comparison. So Max 7
functionality is out of scope for me.
> 
> More details, in max you can set [cycle~] with other messages to control
> the buffer size and offset, check attached image.

The buffer_sizeinsamps and buffer_offset attributes appear to be newer
than Max 5. The sample-offset argument should work however.
> 
> cheers
> 
Greetings,

Fred Jan
> 
> 
> 
> 2015-06-07 17:08 GMT-03:00 Fred Jan Kraan <fjkraan at xs4all.nl
> <mailto:fjkraan at xs4all.nl>>:
> 
>     Hi Alexandre,
> 
>     I checked the cycle~ behaviour against the Max5 doc, and it appears to
>     work as described. Only clicking to view the current buffer contents is
>     not implemented (yet). The offset can be set as argument and it works.
>     The second inlet controls the phase, which amounts to more or less
>     the same.
> 
>     Can you indicate what the differences are?
> 
>     Greetings,
> 
>     Fred Jan
> 
>     On 2015-05-25 04:05 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>     > hi fred, how's it going? I was checking [cycle~] and it seems it's not
>     > behaving much closely like in max, have you checked that? I'm saying
>     > more about its behaviour as a wavetable, where it can offsett the
>     table
>     > and everything.
>     >
>     > I can't find that list of bugs you were working on, where is it?
>     How is
>     > it anyway?
>     >
>     > thanks
>     > cheers
>     >
>     > 2015-01-23 14:25 GMT-02:00 Fred Jan Kraan <fjkraan at xs4all.nl
>     <mailto:fjkraan at xs4all.nl>
>     > <mailto:fjkraan at xs4all.nl <mailto:fjkraan at xs4all.nl>>>:
>     >
>     >     Hi All,
>     >
>     >     At
>     http://fjkraan.home.xs4all.nl/digaud/puredata/cyclone/index.html
>     >     a new set of revised help-patches for the cyclone library are
>     >     available. Most previous remarks are applied.
>     >
>     >     There are now previews of the Windows binaries and MacOSX. The
>     >     latter is build on MacOSX 10.5 with XCode 3.14, so should have
>     >     executables for PPC, i386 and i386_64. I confirmed the last
>     two are
>     >     working (10.5 and 10.8).
>     >
>     >     It remains in progress, in the task list are the fixed and
>     remaining
>     >     issues.
>     >
>     >     Fred Jan
>     >
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