[PD] Rampsmooth~. Was: Update cyclone maintenance

Fred Jan Kraan fjkraan at xs4all.nl
Thu Jun 18 09:25:54 CEST 2015


Hi Alexandre,

> About the [rampsmooth~], I see the new object is corrected, great! One
> thing though, I just realized how it has no audio signal inlets for the
> arguments!!! It was supposed to have them, just like [slide~] does.
> 
It would be logical to expect this, but the Max5 and Max7 documentation
does not mention the inlets. They are visible, but not used in the example.
A quick check with Max5 revealed they are control, not signal inlets.

> cheers

Greetings,

Fred Jan
> 
> 2015-06-07 7:28 GMT-03:00 Fred Jan Kraan <fjkraan at xs4all.nl
> <mailto:fjkraan at xs4all.nl>>:
> 
>     Hi Jan,
> 
>     Thanks for pointing this out. I had seen the logic juggling with
>     RAMPSMOOTH_GEOMETRIC and RAMPSMOOTH_LINEAR, but hadn't came to the
>     conclusion the default behaviour was incorrect. I changed the code for
>     now, but could make the change possible at run-time, as it was intended.
>     But as we already have [slide~] for this, it is not very needed.
> 
> 
>     Greetings,
> 
>     Fred Jan
> 
>     On 2015-06-07 11:33 AM, Jan Baumgart wrote:
>     > Actually, the linear version is already in cyclone's code.
>     > You can choose at compile time by not setting
>     > #define RAMPSMOOTH_GEOMETRIC
>     >
>     > cheers,
>     > jan
>     >
>     > On 06/06/2015 10:26 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>     >> I have another bug to report, now in [rampsmooth~].
>     >>
>     >> According to its help file, it should generate a linear ramp, but it
>     >> doesn't. Instead, it generates a logarithmic curve just like
>     [slide~]. I
>     >> have attached a picture that shows how both are operating in the same
>     >> way, where they shouldn't.
>     >>
>     >> In MAX, [rampsmooth~] does in fact generate a perfectly linear ramp,
>     >> unlike [slide~].
>     >>
>     >> I was actually able to implement [slide~] only with [fexpr~],
>     making it
>     >> 100% compatible to vanilla. If there's a filter formula tht generates
>     >> perfectly linear ramps I can implement it I guess, but it should be
>     >> fairly easy to change it in the object. I'll see what I can do to
>     help.
>     >>
>     >> cheers
>     >>
>     >> 2015-06-05 18:08 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com
>     <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com>
>     >> <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com>>>:
>     >>
>     >>     [m_scale] is an abstraction ...
>     >>
>     >>     --------
>     >>     Dan Wilcox
>     >>     @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika>
>     >>     danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com> <http://danomatika.com>
>     >>     robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com> <http://robotcowboy.com>
>     >>
>     >>>     On Jun 5, 2015, at 5:05 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres
>     >>>     <porres at gmail.com <mailto:porres at gmail.com>
>     <mailto:porres at gmail.com <mailto:porres at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>>     Yeah, I already built it with expr, so I don't really need to
>     >>>     download etxernals for that. I was just wondering if extended
>     >>>     already had such a thing, and it doesn't, so I think it's a nice
>     >>>     addon to cyclone.
>     >>>
>     >>>     An addon to cyclone would implicate and addon to extended, but
>     >>>     then, it's not clear it'll ever be maintained again. Last time
>     >>>     anyone talked about it in this list was 6 months ago... one
>     way or
>     >>>     another, seems like a nice addon to cyclone.
>     >>>
>     >>>     Maybe it could be just an abstraction and it doesn't have to
>     be a
>     >>>     compiled object, I see the point. But I'd like to try and
>     code it
>     >>>     as an external into the cyclone library if possible.
>     >>>
>     >>>     cheers
>     >>>
>     >>>     2015-06-05 17:50 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com
>     <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com>
>     >>>     <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com>>>:
>     >>>
>     >>>         See [m_scale] in rjlib:
>     >>>         https://github.com/rjdj/rjlib/tree/master/rj
>     >>>
>     >>>         --------
>     >>>         Dan Wilcox
>     >>>         @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika>
>     >>>         danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com>
>     <http://danomatika.com/>
>     >>>         robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com>
>     <http://robotcowboy.com/>
>     >>>
>     >>>>         On Jun 5, 2015, at 4:35 PM,
>     pd-list-request at lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list-request at lists.iem.at>
>     >>>>         <mailto:pd-list-request at lists.iem.at
>     <mailto:pd-list-request at lists.iem.at>> wrote:
>     >>>>
>     >>>>         *From:*Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com
>     <mailto:porres at gmail.com>
>     >>>>         <mailto:porres at gmail.com <mailto:porres at gmail.com>>>
>     >>>>         *Subject:**Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance*
>     >>>>         *Date:*June 5, 2015 at 4:34:55 PM EDT
>     >>>>         *To:*Fred Jan Kraan <fjkraan at xs4all.nl
>     <mailto:fjkraan at xs4all.nl>
>     >>>>         <mailto:fjkraan at xs4all.nl <mailto:fjkraan at xs4all.nl>>>
>     >>>>         *Cc:*"pd-list at lists.iem.at
>     <mailto:pd-list at lists.iem.at> <mailto:pd-list at lists.iem.at
>     <mailto:pd-list at lists.iem.at>>"
>     >>>>         <pd-list at lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list at lists.iem.at>
>     <mailto:pd-list at lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list at lists.iem.at>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>>         I'm voting for a new [scale] and [scale~] object in
>     cyclone,
>     >>>>         the second is missing completely in extended, the first is
>     >>>>         around, but in different versions, like [maxlib/scale],
>     which
>     >>>>         has a log option, and is actually buggy, and the
>     >>>>         [expr_scale], which is just an expr abstraction. Seems like
>     >>>>         very simple externals to make and I could go ahead and code
>     >>>>         them. I think they'd be really useful. For example,
>     [scale~]
>     >>>>         would be essential to adjust the amplitude range from
>     LFOs to
>     >>>>         control your patches. the [scale] would be good for
>     adjusting
>     >>>>         MIDI input.
>     >>>>
>     >>>>         cheers
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
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