[PD] pack/unpack pointer data (closed + thanks!)

Michael-Jon Mizra mmizra at live.co.uk
Sun Jun 28 23:04:11 CEST 2015


hi jack, 

brilliant, thank you! 

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> From: Jack <jack at rybn.org>
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> Hello Michael-Jon,
> 
> Le 28/06/2015 00:26, Michael-Jon Mizra a écrit :
> > Hi Jack,
> > 
> > my webcam is taking in data via pix_film, I wish to unpack this
> > data into float to control translationXYZ and rotationXYZ. at the
> > minute I try to unpack it with [unpack f] or [unpack s] but the
> > console spits out an error, type mismatched I get 'bad type' if I
> > try [unpack a]
> 
> Usually, i use [pix_video] to get the video stream of a webcam.
> [pix_film] is more designed to read a movie file from your hard drive.
> > 
> > maybe I'm approaching the task with the wrong process - but I want
> > the webcam movement to feedback and control translations/rotations
> > 
> If you need a value to quantify the movement in your webcam field, you
> can use [pix_movement] (or [pix_movement2]) and the fourth outlet of
> [pix_blob].
> See 04.video/03.movement_detection.pd in the Gem examples (in the help
> browser window) and the help patch of these objects.
> ++
> 
> Jack
> 
> 
> > 
> > all recommendations wanted,
> > 
> > all the best
> > 
> > michael-jon (mj)
> > 
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> >> 1. Re: URL Audio to PD (IOhannes m zmölnig) (Francesco Redente) 
> >> 2. Re: URL Audio to PD (Alexandre Torres Porres) (Francesco
> >> Redente) 3. Re: URL Audio to PD (Alexandre Torres Porres) 
> >> (IOhannes m zmölnig) 4. pack/unpack pointer data (Michael-Jon
> >> Mizra) 5. Re: pack/unpack pointer data (Jack)
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> >> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 13:09:29 +0100 From: Francesco Redente
> >> <f.redente at sae.edu> To: pd-list at lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD]
> >> URL Audio to PD (IOhannes m zmölnig) Message-ID:
> >> <737DC43E-FEA5-4642-AE1A-C45C0B03896E at sae.edu> Content-Type:
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> >> 
> >> Hi, IOhannes,
> >> 
> >> Thank you for the replay. Jack sounds like a good solution,
> >> however i cannot randomise the URL
> > request. ?
> >> 
> >> I really wanted to make it all inside PD, but I guess that's not
> >> possible?
> >> 
> >> Thank you for you help.
> >> 
> >> Best
> >> 
> >> Franky
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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> >>> 1. Re: URL Audio to PD (IOhannes m zmölnig) 2. Re: Troubles
> >>> running Pd on Windows XP Professional (Roman Haefeli)
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> >>> Message: 1 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 22:42:07 +0200 From: IOhannes
> >>> m zmölnig <zmoelnig at iem.at> To: pd-list at lists.iem.at Subject:
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> >>> On 06/26/2015 10:14 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> >>>> i guess you can use software to route audio from the browser
> >>>> to pd, may this one works
> >>>> https://www.rogueamoeba.com/audiohijack/
> >>> 
> >>> or just use jack.
> >>> 
> >>> fgmdsar IOhannes
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> >>> Message: 2 Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 08:15:59 +0200 From: Roman
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> >>> On Fre, 2015-06-26 at 21:46 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
> >>>> On 06/24/2015 06:05 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> >>>>> Assuming it might be a specialty of the install medium I
> >>>>> used back
> > then,
> >>>>> I got another copy of Windows XP as an .ova-file from
> >>>>> here: http://dev.modern.ie/tools/vms/#downloads
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> though i'm under the impression that these VM images are
> >>>> mainly for testing IE - which may imply that the XP
> >>>> installation is deliberately stripped down compared to a
> >>>> "normal" installation. (which might explain your problems)
> >>> 
> >>> I'm under the impression that is not the case. I mean they're
> >>> certainly intended for IE testing, but I don't have any reason
> >>> to think they're stripped down. I installed all kinds of other
> >>> tools on it (GitExtensions, TortoiseSVN, mingw-w64, MSYS) and
> >>> they all work fine.
> >>> 
> >>> Also, I have this problem _not only_ on this IE testing
> >>> appliance, but also with two different installations of Windows
> >>> XP from an original CD. I don't know what medium Chris
> >>> McCormick used to install, but he has the same problem, too.
> >>> 
> >>> People having used Windows XP over years very likely installed
> >>> software that ships with the redistributable Pd is asking for.
> >>> So that is probably why only some people experience this kind
> >>> of problem while many others don't. The Windows XP VirtualBox
> >>> VM (not the modern.ie-test-appliance) I initially experienced
> >>> that problem withj I'm using only for a single purpose and that
> >>> is why I never installed anything on it but the software used
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> >> Message: 2 Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 13:12:57 +0100 From: Francesco
> >> Redente <f.redente at sae.edu> To: pd-list at lists.iem.at Subject: Re:
> >> [PD] URL Audio to PD (Alexandre Torres Porres) Message-ID:
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> >> HI Alexandre,
> >> 
> >> Thank you for the reply. I already use Audiohijack, that were I
> >> got the idea from, but I want
> > to make a PD patch.. with out having to use and external app to
> > route the URL audio into PD.
> >> 
> >> Thank you anyway.
> >> 
> >> Best
> >> 
> >> Franky
> >> 
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> >>> On 06/24/2015 06:05 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> >>>> Assuming it might be a specialty of the install medium I used
> >>>> back
> > then,
> >>>> I got another copy of Windows XP as an .ova-file from here: 
> >>>> http://dev.modern.ie/tools/vms/#downloads
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> though i'm under the impression that these VM images are mainly
> >>> for testing IE - which may imply that the XP installation is
> >>> deliberately stripped down compared to a "normal" installation.
> >>> (which might explain your problems)
> >>> 
> >>> mdsr IOhannes
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> >>> Message: 2 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 17:14:49 -0300 From:
> >>> Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com> To: Francesco
> >>> Redente <f.redente at sae.edu> Cc: "pd-list at lists.iem.at"
> >>> <pd-list at lists.iem.at> Subject: Re: [PD] URL Audio to PD 
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>> 
> >>> i guess you can use software to route audio from the browser to
> >>> pd, may this one works
> >>> https://www.rogueamoeba.com/audiohijack/
> >>> 
> >>> 2015-06-26 6:52 GMT-03:00 Francesco Redente
> >>> <f.redente at sae.edu>:
> >>> 
> >>>> I there, I hope you are good. My name is Franky, I am new PD
> >>>> user
> >>>> 
> >>>> I would like to create a PD patch designed to perform
> >>>> realtime sampling from random URL-web (for example youtube or
> >>>> soundcloud). Basically a WebAudio sampler, but as part of a
> >>>> live performing patch.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I would like to send/bang random URL requests and capture/rec
> >>>> the audio stream, of such URLs, into PD.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I have been advised by my uni lecturer to use " mrpeach
> >>>> objects in connection with a python script to run youtube-dl
> >>>> ". He also advised me to mail this list to check if there are
> >>>> any new
> > objects
> >>>> which will accomplish that, similar to the jweb object in
> >>>> max/msp 7.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Could you please be so kind to advice me the best way I
> >>>> should approach this?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thank you,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Best ,
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Franky
> >>>> 
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> >> Message: 3 Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:36:40 +0200 From: IOhannes m
> >> zmölnig <zmoelnig at iem.at> To: pd-list at lists.iem.at Subject: Re:
> >> [PD] URL Audio to PD (Alexandre Torres Porres) Message-ID:
> >> <558EB4F8.3020701 at iem.at> Content-Type: text/plain;
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> >> On 06/27/2015 02:12 PM, Francesco Redente wrote:
> >>> HI Alexandre,
> >>> 
> >>> Thank you for the reply. I already use Audiohijack, that were I
> >>> got the idea from, but I want
> > to make a PD patch.. with out having to use and external app to
> > route the URL audio into PD.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> why would you want to do that? (the only reason that comes to my
> >> mind is showing off that you *can* do it; apart from that i don't
> >> think there is any benefit).
> >> 
> >> Pd is good in audio processing; it's less good in creating
> >> webpages or editing xlsx files. this is a good thing: you don't
> >> want to do audio programming in excel or minesweeper, do you?
> >> 
> >> gfmards IOhannes
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> >> Message: 4 Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 20:05:58 +0100 From:
> >> Michael-Jon Mizra <mmizra at live.co.uk> To: "pd-list at lists.iem.at"
> >> <pd-list at lists.iem.at> Subject: [PD] pack/unpack pointer data 
> >> Message-ID: <DUB122-W11E87C9E8CD4CD27D2DC5DFEAC0 at phx.gbl> 
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> >> 
> >> Hi, any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you - my data
> >> input is a
> > webcam feed, I am trying to use this feed to create rotational / 
> > translational movement. I assumed unpacking the pointer data as a
> > float to control the parameters would work best, corrections
> > welcomed
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> >> Message: 5 Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:50:57 +0200 From: Jack
> >> <jack at rybn.org> To: pd-list at lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD]
> >> pack/unpack pointer data Message-ID: <558EFEA1.4010801 at rybn.org> 
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Hmm, sorry, i really can't understand your question, can you
> > develop ? ++
> > 
> > Jack
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Le 27/06/2015 21:05, Michael-Jon Mizra a écrit :
> >> Hi,
> > 
> >> any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you - my data input
> >> is a webcam feed, I am trying to use this feed to create
> >> rotational / translational movement. I assumed unpacking the
> >> pointer data as a float to control the parameters would work
> >> best, corrections welcomed
> > 
> >> michael-jon
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> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 09:58:17 -0700
> From: Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu>
> To: Roman Haefeli <reduzent at gmail.com>
> Cc: pd-list at lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] Troubles running Pd on Windows XP Professional
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> OK... I've got a clean Windows 2K install running under qemu, and indeed
> wish85.exe doesn't run in it.  The filehas a "manifest" that contains this:
> 
>   <dependency>
>     <dependentAssembly>
>       <assemblyIdentity type="win32" name="Microsoft.VC90.CRT" version="9.0.21022.8" processorArchitecture="x86" publicKeyToken="1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b"></assemblyIdentity>
>     </dependentAssembly>
>   </dependency>
> 
> (I'm finding this out using the "mt.exe" utility in Microsoft developer tools).
> When I take the offending line out, wish85.exe starts up but immediately crashes.
> 
> I think I need to figure out how to recompile wish85.exe differently - I
> had just used the build system straight out of the tcl/tk distribution.  This
> might take some time...
> 
> cheers
> Miller
> 
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 08:15:59AM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> > On Fre, 2015-06-26 at 21:46 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
> > > On 06/24/2015 06:05 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> > > > Assuming it might be a specialty of the install medium I used back then,
> > > > I got another copy of Windows XP as an .ova-file from here:
> > > > http://dev.modern.ie/tools/vms/#downloads
> > > 
> > > 
> > > though i'm under the impression that these VM images are mainly for
> > > testing IE - which may imply that the XP installation is deliberately
> > > stripped down compared to a "normal" installation. (which might explain
> > > your problems)
> > 
> > I'm under the impression that is not the case. I mean they're certainly
> > intended for IE testing, but I don't have any reason to think they're
> > stripped down. I installed all kinds of other tools on it
> > (GitExtensions, TortoiseSVN, mingw-w64, MSYS) and they all work fine. 
> > 
> > Also, I have this problem _not only_ on this IE testing appliance, but
> > also with two different installations of Windows XP from an original CD.
> > I don't know what medium Chris McCormick used to install, but he has the
> > same problem, too.
> > 
> > People having used Windows XP over years very likely installed software
> > that ships with the redistributable Pd is asking for. So that is
> > probably why only some people experience this kind of problem while many
> > others don't. The Windows XP VirtualBox VM (not the
> > modern.ie-test-appliance) I initially experienced that problem withj I'm
> > using only for a single purpose and that is why I never installed
> > anything on it but the software used to fulfill the single purpose. 
> > 
> > Now, I'm using this machine also for building and testing Pd and
> > externals.
> > 
> > Roman
> >    
> > 
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> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 10:00:35 -0700
> From: Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu>
> To: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
> Cc: "pd-list at lists.iem.at" <pd-list at lists.iem.at>
> Subject: Re: [PD] good example for vsnapshot~
> Message-ID: <20150628170035.GH14938 at fuzz.localdomain>
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> It's a bad design that it on,y allows up to one block of 'history' - it needs
> to be rewritten to use a delay line (or something like that).  Also it should
> allow interpolation, I think as an option.
> 
> Better not use it - any change that 'fixes' it will be incompatible!
> 
> cheers
> Miller
> 
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 04:55:31AM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> > ok, so now I see that snapshot~ may output values in the same rate as
> > vsnapshot~ but it'll only output the last sample of a block, and won't work
> > for block sizes less than 64 in size
> > 
> > so yeah, the idea of a vsnapshot~ seems nice, and seems to work fine, what
> > would the bugs be?
> > 
> > cheers
> > 
> > 2015-06-28 2:21 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>:
> > 
> > > Ok, and you know what? I've been making tests, and it seems [snapshot~] is
> > > just doing the same job as [vsnapshot~], so I'm not sure if there's a case
> > > it is needed.
> > >
> > > Since you are thinking about getting it to work, let me ask, what would it
> > > be needed for?
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > 2015-06-28 1:33 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu>:
> > >
> > >> Better not play with it - it's not well designed and I want to put it out
> > >> to
> > >> pasture once I or someone can design a correct one.
> > >>
> > >> cheers
> > >> Miller
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 12:22:03AM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> > >> > Could anyone tell me a use they have for [vsnapshot~]? Trying to make a
> > >> > good example to explain its purpose, thanks
> > >>
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