[PD] [initbang] vs [loadbang]

i go bananas hard.off at gmail.com
Mon Jul 6 04:41:48 CEST 2015


That is an awesome hack!  Nice one IOhannes :D

Just did a simple test, and it seems you can just take the basic idea and
wrap that up as an abstraction to use as a replacement for [initbang],
wherever you need it.

Also, i tried using \$0, to avoid the need for the spigot.  PD console
prints an error:  "$0_initbang: no such object", but the bang does actually
seem to be sent.







On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 5:51 AM, Jack <jack at rybn.org> wrote:

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> Without this last line in the abstraction, it is possible to use
> something like :
> $ sed -i '/inlet;/d' ./dynin.pd && if [[ $(tail -n1 dynin.pd) !=
> "_initbang bang;" ]] ; then echo "_initbang bang;" >> dynin.pd ; fi &&
> pd dynin-test.pd
> Then you can save your abstraction, this is ugly but seems to work...
> ++
>
> Jack
>
>
>
> Le 05/07/2015 22:07, Jack a écrit :
> > Yes, nice, all is in the last line in the abstraction ;) ++
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> >
> > Le 05/07/2015 22:01, Roman Haefeli a écrit :
> >> On Son, 2015-07-05 at 21:04 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
> >>> On 07/05/2015 08:57 PM, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
> >>>>> saving the "dynin.pd" abstraction, will break it.
> >>> [...]
> >>>> abstraction. I put [r _initbang] but it won't work.
> >>>
> >>> the trick is *not* to have a [r _initbang] in your patch. the
> >>> trick is to generate a message sent to the "_initbang" label.
> >>> this is a fragile hack, hence all my warnings; esp. the first
> >>> warning "do not save" is for real - and it's not because you
> >>> will save the dynamically generated objects, but because it
> >>> will break the init logic.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> and i would very much prefer if anybody who wants to use that
> >>> trick discovers themselves how it actually works (e.g. by
> >>> studying the patch i gave).
> >
> >> Despite your slight tone of discouragement to use such a hack,
> >> it's still a cool and smart hack. Thanks for sharing.
> >
> >> Roman
> >
> >
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