[PD] deken-plugin & portability

Dan Wilcox danomatika at gmail.com
Thu Oct 15 04:02:08 CEST 2015


It would be a good idea to version it, if possible. I’m not sure if the meta package has been created yet, but that’s the idea.
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> On Oct 14, 2015, at 7:54 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Will the pd-extended package be versioned as well?  In other words is it a 
> rolling package release-- always fetching the most recent versions of the 
> library packages it contains, or standard release-- tested and released with 
> specific versions of the library packages?
> 
> -Jonathan
> On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 6:11 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com> wrote:
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> 
> Well, not specifically me as I haven’t contributed code to deken. Versions are currently handled by the filename format: https://github.com/pure-data/deken#create-and-upload-a-package <https://github.com/pure-data/deken#create-and-upload-a-package>
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> Dan Wilcox
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>> On Oct 14, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com <mailto:jancsika at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Dan,
>>      How do you handle versioning?
>> 
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>> On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 3:18 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> That’s why one idea with deken is to install an “extended” meta package which installs most (if not all) of the libs that came with pd-extended. I don’t think it’s too hard to ask a user to open the plugin and install a single package.
>> 
>> Also, the cross platform issue will be fixed in time. Thanks for debugging!
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>> Dan Wilcox
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>>> On Oct 14, 2015, at 9:22 AM, rolfm at dds.nl <mailto:rolfm at dds.nl> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> it looks like the future of pd-extended is going to be 'deken'.
>>> what to do then about portability?
>>> 
>>> i make patches for people who don't know a lot about programming.
>>> plus they are on Mac, i'm on Windows.
>>> one time downloading the right version of Pdext is enough;
>>> i can give them my patches and they just run them.
>>> when i make changes, new features: there's no hassle for them.
>>> 
>>> using Vanilla & deken is something else.
>>> declaring a library in the patch is not enough.
>>> including the library in the patch-package works only on the same type of OS;
>>> Windows & Windows, Mac & Mac, (Linux & Linux?).
>>> 
>>> one method could be a deken-connected feature to automatically download a declared lib when it's not present.
>>> what about updates or changes in a lib in that case?
>>> 
>>> the organisation of pd-ext somehow included a kind of gate-keeping, which resulted in a stable Pd-system.
>>> i'm still using Pdext 42.5 and the included libs a lot (because of the old machines in my installations).  the same libs are functional in Pdext 43.4.
>>> so one could argue that there's no great need for a portability design. just download everything that's necessary (and available) and it will work for quite some time.
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> rolf
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