[PD] deken-plugin & portability

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Glad to see there is finally something like this happening!  The meta.pd file in the libdir format would be a good place to include dependencies.  It already contains the version.

.hc

On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Chris McCormick wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Warning, 100% vapourware ahead.
> 
> On 14/10/15 23:22, rolfm at dds.nl wrote:
>> it looks like the future of pd-extended is going to be 'deken'.
>> what to do then about portability?
> 
> I think we should copy the good existing solutions for this from popular scripting languages.
> 
> For example, in Python you can supply a file "requirements.txt" with your Python code, and an end-user can issue `pip install -r requirements.txt` to install all of the packages with the correct versions listed therein:
> 
> https://pip.readthedocs.org/en/1.1/requirements.html
> 
> There should be a thing in Pd/deken that works exactly like this. For example, you could have a [deps] object which specifies the name of a text file that contains the list of dependencies and their versions. The user could bang the [deps] object (or be prompted when it loads, or some other user-friendly mechanism) to load up the deken interface and initiate the install of those dependencies one-by-one.
> 
> Before anybody wigs out about security, obviously we should make sure the GPG signatures of all of those binary packages are checked and verified, as well as using HTTPS for all connections, and the user should be prompted before taking any action that might compromise their security, and informed of all of the risks [which is much more than Python's `pip` does currently]. Just as much as anybody else I don't want the NSA stealing my proprietary procedural rave algorithms[1] and using them to subdue a band of deeply attractive Russian spies causing them to dance uncontrollably to the frankly irresistible rhythms of acid bass + garage beats thereby forcing the west's neo-libertarian centralized fiat capitalist imperial practices upon the free world[2]. Fuck that!
> 
> IOhannes and I have some draft code and GitHub tickets (search "dekenception" on the GitHub) pointing in this general direction but there is a lot of work to be done. Patches are very much welcome!
> 
> Given the above does not exist, if the current deken functionality does not work for your users I would suggest they use Pd-extended, or Pd-l2ork if it is available for their platform [I have not tried the latter but I think Jonathan indicated it should fit the bill].
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris.
> 
> [1] Hypothetically proprietary - they're actually GPL.
> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Does_Humor_Belong_in_Music%3F_%28album%29#/media/File:Frank_Zappa,_Does_Humor_Belong_In_Music.jpg
> 
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