[PD] consolidate backward- and MaxMSP compatibility in Cyclone (was: Purpose of Cyclone)

Miller Puckette msp at ucsd.edu
Wed Dec 23 00:46:29 CET 2015


If I may make a suggestion - when I find that an object isn't terribly
well designed (for example my own qlist :) I make another one, with another
name, that does the job better (text).

cheers
Miller

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 08:51:03PM -0200, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> Well, newer patches with newer functionalities not working in older
> versions is how things go anyway, right? Vanilla 0-46 patches don't run in
> 0.45 and so on... there's no way around that I guess.
> 
> > the dual outlet layout with message left and
> > signal right is rather unusual.
> 
> But I think it's also simpler and more straightforward than introducing
> flags, arguments and all. It might be unusual, but there are already some
> objects with similar design, I actually thought of that because of
> [sampstoms~] and [mstosamps~] - it'd be basically the same design.
> 
> cheers
> 
> 2015-12-22 19:48 GMT-02:00 katja <katjavetter at gmail.com>:
> 
> > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres
> > <porres at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > If we're discussing [average~], how about my idea of having a second
> > right
> > > signal outlet as default? I think it's an easy and simple solution. Help
> > > file would explain how the left control outlet is for backwards
> > > compatibility. Done.
> >
> > Yes that would be an easy way to incorporate Fred Jan's signal average
> > output into the existing class. But note that both solutions, dual
> > mode and dual outlet, have a similar forward incompatibility effect. A
> > patch that uses the right signal outlet of a new version won't run
> > with an old average~ binary. So the pros and cons of both solutions
> > are comparable, with the small difference that the dual outlet layout
> > with message left and signal right is rather unusual.
> >
> > Katja
> >

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