[PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 130, Issue 88

Tue Jan 26 17:16:47 CET 2016

I messaged Eric Lyon off-list, just in case he wasn't on list. That's when
I also discovered he was hosting fftease on git. We should probably update
some documentation at puredata.info to point users there.

Big thanks to Eric for taking time at the start of the semester to answer
my email.

I will now summarize the problem I'm having and the steps I've taken to
unsuccessfully get fftease working.

I'm on Mac OS 10.9.5. I updated Pd vanilla to 0.46.7 32-bit.

When I load Pd, you will see that zexy and GEM load correctly, but other
libraries appear to not load, although I can call their externals in Pd.
Here's my log window:

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deken-plugin.tcl (Pd externals search) in
/Users/sburt/Library/Pd/deken-plugin loaded.
Platform detected: Darwin-x86_64-32bit
'deken-plugin.tcl' already loaded, ignoring:
'/Users/sburt/Library/Pd/deken-plugin/deken-plugin.tcl'
cyclone: can't load library

♡♡♡
♡ the zexy external  2.2.6svn
♡ (c) 1999-2012 IOhannes m zmölnig
♡       forum::für::umläute
♡       iem   @  kug
♡  compiled:  May 29 2015
♡ send me a 'help' message
♡♡♡

warning: class 'abs~' overwritten; old one renamed 'abs~_aliased'
matchbox: OSC-pattern matching code (c) Matt Wright, CNMAT
warning: class 'wrap' overwritten; old one renamed 'wrap_aliased'
GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia
GEM: ver: 0.93.3
GEM: compiled: Nov 10 2011
GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig
GEM: Authors : Mark Danks (original version)
GEM: Chris Clepper
GEM: Cyrille Henry
GEM: IOhannes m zmoelnig
GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, James Tittle,
Hans-Christoph Steiner, et al.
GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it:
GEM: homepage http://gem.iem.at/
GEM: bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/
GEM: mailing-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/
GEM: compiled for SIMD architecture: SSE2 MMX
GEM: using SSE2 optimization
flatspace: can't load library
iemlib: can't load library
hcs: can't load library
tof: can't load library
ggee: can't load library
fftease: can't load library
==============

Investigating this, I noted this link
https://puredata.info/docs/faq/faqsection_view?section=General that stated
that "as of pd 0.43 saving library paths is not supported, the recommended
way to include libraries is to use the import object" which seems odd
because [import] only works for me in Pd-extended. There's not a lot of
information on this subject there.

While I can access externals from these libraries, cyclone, iemlib, hcs,
etc., I cannot get the fftease objects to instantiate.

I next deleted my Pd preference files from my user Library and recreated my
search paths and Libraries-on-load. Still no change.

Log window:
==============
 dentist~ 2048 8
... couldn't create
 dentist~ 2048 8
... couldn't create
 fftease/dentist~ 2048 8
... couldn't create
==============

Eric suggested downloading and compiling fftease. So I downloaded the
source and followed the instructions to "make" and then perl script that
moves all the .pd_darwin files into a folder. I put the external folder and
help folder in ~/Library/Pd/, but they still didn't work. The "make"
command seemed to work correctly although it did throw "sed:
fftease-meta.pd: No such file or directory" a few times when it started and
it threw "bthresher~.c:139:48: warning: unused parameter 'msg'
[-Wunused-parameter]" for every object.

Now, that I've recompiled and reinstalled the externals, [pvoc~] won't load
as I was describing before.

I'm glad fftease is alive and well. The externals are amazing! I just wish
I could figure out what is going wrong on my end.

Sam

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> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 21:00:51 +0000
> From: Samuel Burt <composer.samuel.burt at gmail.com>
> To: "pd-list at lists.iem.at" <pd-list at lists.iem.at>
> Subject: [PD] fftease compatibility with Pd-0.46-7
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> Hi list,
>
> I'm attempting to use [pvoc~] and [mindwarp~] from fftease 2.5.2 in Pd
> vanilla 0.46-7. I have verified that [pvoc~] works in Pd-extended 0.43.4,
> but I just get a quick blast of digital distortion followed by silence when
> I run the same help file in vanilla. Was there some change to vanilla Pd
> that doesn't let fftease run?
>
> I saw this post from four months ago with no follow up.
> http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/9542/fftease-on-vanilla
>
> There was mention of an experimental version of fftease 2.5.2.1. The link
> goes to a page with no download.
> http://puredata.info/downloads/fftease/releases/2.5.2.1.
> The code repository goes nowhere
> https://svn.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/svn/trunk/externals/fftease .
>
> Is fftease dead? I'll also send this to the email address (Eric Lyon) on
> the project page.
>
> Thanks all,
> Sam
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> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:19:53 -0500
> From: Eric Lyon <audiodidact at gmail.com>
> To: pd-list at lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] FFTease and Pd 0.46.7
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> Indeed more specificity would be welcome here, as IOhannes mentioned.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Eric
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> > From: IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig at iem.at>
> > To: pd-list at lists.iem.at
> > Cc:
> > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 09:33:29 +0100
> > Subject: Re: [PD] FFTease and Pd 0.46.7
> > On 2015-12-08 10:59, Si Mills wrote:
> > > To follow up, I came across FFTease 3.0
> > > https://github.com/ericlyon/fftease3.0-32bit on the list.
> > >
> > > I rebuilt and it still seems to be exploding the output. Any ideas?
> >
> > no.
> > but i really don't know what you mean.
> > could you be more specific about the problem you are experiencing?
> > (which objects, which input? example patch showing the problem).
> >
> > if you are using github-issues to discuss your problem, it would be nice
> > if you could cross-reference to here, so the list dose not accumulate
> > un-answered questions (which have been resolved elsewhere)
> >
> >
> > https://github.com/ericlyon/fftease3.0-32bit/issues/13
> >
> >
> > hsm
> > IOhannes
> >
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