[PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 130, Issue 88

Tue Jan 26 18:23:29 CET 2016

Eric and the list,

Here's an update.

1. I fixed my "can't load library" error by downloading libdir with deken
and then including it at the top of the libraries loaded. Both flatspace
and fftease still throw the error, though. The other libraries load fine.

2. I tried moving my newly compiled mindwarp~.pd_darwin and pvoc~.pd_darwin
to my project folder with the libfftease.dylib. I can load the objects in
the project patch! However, the audio is choppier than before, like it
can't keep up. If I load two pairs of [mindwarp~] and [pvoc~] it crashes
after a minute. My original patch, that I used to run in Pd-extended had
three pairs. So, I will look to see what is going on there.

3. When I attempt to load an fftease help file from my ~/Library/Pd/
fftease folders, it still doesn't find the .pd_darwin files and won't
create the objects. I can refer to the file's absolute position, though.
[../fftease32-externals/codepend~].

A few minutes after writing this, I added ~/Library/Pd/fftease32-externals
to the path. This seems to have fixed finding the library. I assumed that
~/Library/Pd was all that was required to find externals in nested folders.
I guess I was wrong about this. If I right-click to get help for a fftease
object, though, it still can't find the help file.

Thanks for the assistance. I hope this thread can help more people like me.

Sam

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:16 AM Samuel Burt <composer.samuel.burt at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I messaged Eric Lyon off-list, just in case he wasn't on list. That's when
> I also discovered he was hosting fftease on git. We should probably update
> some documentation at puredata.info to point users there.
>
> Big thanks to Eric for taking time at the start of the semester to answer
> my email.
>
> I will now summarize the problem I'm having and the steps I've taken to
> unsuccessfully get fftease working.
>
> I'm on Mac OS 10.9.5. I updated Pd vanilla to 0.46.7 32-bit.
>
> When I load Pd, you will see that zexy and GEM load correctly, but other
> libraries appear to not load, although I can call their externals in Pd.
> Here's my log window:
>
> ==============
> deken-plugin.tcl (Pd externals search) in
> /Users/sburt/Library/Pd/deken-plugin loaded.
> Platform detected: Darwin-x86_64-32bit
> 'deken-plugin.tcl' already loaded, ignoring:
> '/Users/sburt/Library/Pd/deken-plugin/deken-plugin.tcl'
> cyclone: can't load library
>
> ♡♡♡
> ♡ the zexy external  2.2.6svn
> ♡ (c) 1999-2012 IOhannes m zmölnig
> ♡       forum::für::umläute
> ♡       iem   @  kug
> ♡  compiled:  May 29 2015
> ♡ send me a 'help' message
> ♡♡♡
>
> warning: class 'abs~' overwritten; old one renamed 'abs~_aliased'
> matchbox: OSC-pattern matching code (c) Matt Wright, CNMAT
> warning: class 'wrap' overwritten; old one renamed 'wrap_aliased'
> GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia
> GEM: ver: 0.93.3
> GEM: compiled: Nov 10 2011
> GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig
> GEM: Authors : Mark Danks (original version)
> GEM: Chris Clepper
> GEM: Cyrille Henry
> GEM: IOhannes m zmoelnig
> GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, James Tittle,
> Hans-Christoph Steiner, et al.
> GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it:
> GEM: homepage http://gem.iem.at/
> GEM: bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/
> GEM: mailing-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/
> GEM: compiled for SIMD architecture: SSE2 MMX
> GEM: using SSE2 optimization
> flatspace: can't load library
> iemlib: can't load library
> hcs: can't load library
> tof: can't load library
> ggee: can't load library
> fftease: can't load library
> ==============
>
>
>
>
> Investigating this, I noted this link
> https://puredata.info/docs/faq/faqsection_view?section=General that
> stated that "as of pd 0.43 saving library paths is not supported, the
> recommended way to include libraries is to use the import object" which
> seems odd because [import] only works for me in Pd-extended. There's not a
> lot of information on this subject there.
>
> While I can access externals from these libraries, cyclone, iemlib, hcs,
> etc., I cannot get the fftease objects to instantiate.
>
> I next deleted my Pd preference files from my user Library and recreated
> my search paths and Libraries-on-load. Still no change.
>
> Log window:
> ==============
>  dentist~ 2048 8
> ... couldn't create
>  dentist~ 2048 8
> ... couldn't create
>  fftease/dentist~ 2048 8
> ... couldn't create
> ==============
>
> Eric suggested downloading and compiling fftease. So I downloaded the
> source and followed the instructions to "make" and then perl script that
> moves all the .pd_darwin files into a folder. I put the external folder and
> help folder in ~/Library/Pd/, but they still didn't work. The "make"
> command seemed to work correctly although it did throw "sed:
> fftease-meta.pd: No such file or directory" a few times when it started and
> it threw "bthresher~.c:139:48: warning: unused parameter 'msg'
> [-Wunused-parameter]" for every object.
>
> Now, that I've recompiled and reinstalled the externals, [pvoc~] won't
> load as I was describing before.
>
> I'm glad fftease is alive and well. The externals are amazing! I just wish
> I could figure out what is going wrong on my end.
>
> Sam
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 21:00:51 +0000
>> From: Samuel Burt <composer.samuel.burt at gmail.com>
>> To: "pd-list at lists.iem.at" <pd-list at lists.iem.at>
>> Subject: [PD] fftease compatibility with Pd-0.46-7
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>> Hi list,
>>
>> I'm attempting to use [pvoc~] and [mindwarp~] from fftease 2.5.2 in Pd
>> vanilla 0.46-7. I have verified that [pvoc~] works in Pd-extended 0.43.4,
>> but I just get a quick blast of digital distortion followed by silence
>> when
>> I run the same help file in vanilla. Was there some change to vanilla Pd
>> that doesn't let fftease run?
>>
>> I saw this post from four months ago with no follow up.
>> http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/9542/fftease-on-vanilla
>>
>> There was mention of an experimental version of fftease 2.5.2.1. The link
>> goes to a page with no download.
>> http://puredata.info/downloads/fftease/releases/2.5.2.1.
>> The code repository goes nowhere
>> https://svn.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/svn/trunk/externals/fftease .
>>
>> Is fftease dead? I'll also send this to the email address (Eric Lyon) on
>> the project page.
>>
>> Thanks all,
>> Sam
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>> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:19:53 -0500
>> From: Eric Lyon <audiodidact at gmail.com>
>> To: pd-list at lists.iem.at
>> Subject: Re: [PD] FFTease and Pd 0.46.7
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>> Indeed more specificity would be welcome here, as IOhannes mentioned.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> >
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>> > From: IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig at iem.at>
>> > To: pd-list at lists.iem.at
>> > Cc:
>> > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 09:33:29 +0100
>> > Subject: Re: [PD] FFTease and Pd 0.46.7
>> > On 2015-12-08 10:59, Si Mills wrote:
>> > > To follow up, I came across FFTease 3.0
>> > > https://github.com/ericlyon/fftease3.0-32bit on the list.
>> > >
>> > > I rebuilt and it still seems to be exploding the output. Any ideas?
>> >
>> > no.
>> > but i really don't know what you mean.
>> > could you be more specific about the problem you are experiencing?
>> > (which objects, which input? example patch showing the problem).
>> >
>> > if you are using github-issues to discuss your problem, it would be nice
>> > if you could cross-reference to here, so the list dose not accumulate
>> > un-answered questions (which have been resolved elsewhere)
>> >
>> >
>> > https://github.com/ericlyon/fftease3.0-32bit/issues/13
>> >
>> >
>> > hsm
>> > IOhannes
>> >
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