[PD] How's Pd limited?

Esteban Viveros emviveros at gmail.com
Tue Feb 23 07:13:29 CET 2016


Like that:

Align: https://youtu.be/lCIeIelbw74
Route Patch Cords: https://youtu.be/2u_UJQ8OfvU



Em ter, 23 de fev de 2016 às 02:09, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>
escreveu:

> > Here's a radical idea that I've sometimes pondered: what if we could
> create left-inlets and right-outlets as well as the standard top- and
> bottom- ones?
>
> If the object has more than one inlet or outlet you wouldn't be able to
> fit them on the side of the object box.
>
> Also, you run into a common UI problem: if you rotate a thing ninety
> degrees, do you rotate clockwise or counterclockwise?  If I push "up"
> on a DirectTv remote the channel guide on the screen scrolls down (and the
> numbers decrease!), but if I slide my fingers up a MacBook
> touchpad the browser window scrolls upward.  Similarly, vertically-placed
> outlets could fire top-down or bottom-up.  Maybe one is somehow
> more natural than the other, but off the top of my head I can't think
> which.  So I think you'd get more conceptual complexity in return for
> visual left-to-right flow.
>
> [expr] helps to fill the role you describe.  Unfortunately the
> Max-compatibility creates more complexity, making Pd's mantra of
> "everything is a float" turn into "everything is a float unless it follows
> the syntax of that other software which you may or may
> not have learned..."
>
> -Jonathan
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 22, 2016 11:40 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> > Max have features like auto-align horizontally/vertically
>
> Pd-l2ork has this, too-- "Tidy Up" in the Edit menu.  It's a little
> strange-- if you click it once it will sweep the selected objects into a
> "pile", and if you click again it will fan them out like a deck of cards.
> But it can work well for some situations.
>
> > and align and route patch cords which is very useful to organize patch
> cords and make the thinks more readable. I like them a lot.
>
> That's a side-effect of "Tidy Up" in a lot of cases, at least for the
> leftmost inlets and outlets.
>
> -Jonathan
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 22, 2016 10:49 PM, Esteban Viveros <
> emviveros at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> A feature I miss in vanilla and extended (pdl2ork solve that) is resize
> objects via one point click and drag. If it is hard to implement, a "apply"
> button on properties can help to design UI's in Vanilla.
>
> Max have features like auto-align horizontally/vertically and align and
> route patch cords which is very useful to organize patch cords and make the
> thinks more readable. I like them a lot.
>
> Em seg, 22 de fev de 2016 às 23:49, Johnny Mauser via Pd-list <
> pd-list at lists.iem.at> escreveu:
>
> That's something i completly experiece diffrently!! Pd fucks up in
> practise and development quiet often (maybe i make it fuck up) but once it
> runs, it runs stable every time!!
> Love to pd,
> Johnny
> Am 23.02.2016 02:20 schrieb "Morten Minothi Kristiansen" <
> minothi at gmail.com>:
>
> Not tried different builds, please giide me.
> 23. feb. 2016 02.20 skrev "Morten Minothi Kristiansen" <minothi at gmail.com
> >:
>
> Its been like this with Mavericks, Yosemite and El capitalist. Pd extended
> 0.43. I did a clean install a week ago and it worked fine for a week until
> I installed live 9. It still worked until it suddenly hit some kond of wall
> again.
> Mort
> 23. feb. 2016 02.15 skrev "AP Vague" <apvague at gmail.com>:
>
> Woah, that's definitely a problem I haven't heard of... I'm guessing
> you've already tried using different builds. What OS are you on?
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Morten Minothi Kristiansen <
> minothi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On my last two comouters PD wont open unless I start it with a standalone
> patch I made long ago. It works for a little while, then crashes completely
> and for ever more...unless I use the stand alone. Recently...5 min before a
> gig the standalone wouldnt even start. The gig was fine as Im nott 100%
> relying on pd, but I have lost faith in PD EXTENDED and wish someone could
> have helped me earlier with this. I have posted and searched for answears,
> but didnt get nothing back. Aaaarrrgggghhh!!!
> I would mayyybe make a few more attempts if only someone serious would
> help me out with this and fix the problem, but thats yet to be the case.
> Ok... sorry about the rant. Had to get it out and now Im moving on with
> Max.
> Yebo
> Morten
> 22. feb. 2016 02.52 skrev "Matti Viljamaa" <mviljamaa at kapsi.fi>:
>
> Perhaps a bit of broad question, but I find it interesting in order to
> speculate about future additions.
>
> How do you think Pure Data is limited?
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