[PD] Cyclone future

[Simon Iten]

bicycle…bicyclone


> On 23 Feb 2016, at 21:46, Matt Barber <brbrofsvl at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Alexandre suggested "recyclone," which I kind of like. "Cyclone" gets its name as a portmanteau of "cycling" and "clone," and it happens to be an english word. I rather like "typhoon," but "recyclone" makes it clear that it's a continuation of the original cyclone, while adding "recycle" to the portmanteau.
> 
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:32 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig <zmoelnig at iem.at <mailto:zmoelnig at iem.at>> wrote:
> On 02/21/2016 10:18 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
> > On 02/21/2016 08:35 PM, Fred Jan Kraan wrote:
> >> This mail is the last I will write about cyclone in the foreseeable
> >> future.
> >
> > this is about the worst possible outcome of the entire discussion.
> >
> >> There are serious plans to save Pure Data and cyclone by adding
> >> numerous objects.
> >
> > what i don't understand is:
> > what keeps people from creating a "typhoon" library that adds the
> > additional objects?
> >
> [...]
> >
> > PS: and what is that "hurricane" library for?
> 
> after thinking some more about this, i think a sensible way to move
> forward is for *both* forks of cyclone to change their names.
> 
> cyclone is krzysztof's library.
> krzysztof is missing in action.
> he has neither officially abandoned the library nor has he (to my
> knowledge) authorized anybody to continue on his behalf.
> 
> i agree with chris that this is open source, and that forking is one of
> the strengths of open source.
> this doesn't mean though, that we should end up with 3 different
> versions of the same software that are indistinguishable from outside
> though different inside. in german we call this thing a "mogelpackung"
> (a euphemism for fraud).
> 
> it doesn't really matter if everybody is only working with their best
> intentions in mind. what does matter is, that the end-user is being mislead.
> 
> 
> i therefore ask both fred and alexandre to change the name of their
> library, so that they cannot be confused with both the original cyclone
> library and with each other: neither of the forks is an (or /the/)
> "official" fork.
> for what it is worth, git makes it easy to incorporate changes between
> forks (using pull requests, cherry picking,...) even if the names are
> different!
> 
> keep both names similar to cyclone if you want to, so that it is
> possible to see their relation.
> 
> i still think that "hurricane", "tornado", "typhoon" and "windhoos" are
> good candidates.
> 
> 
> mgrdsa
> IOhannes
> 
> PS: of course i am in no position to tell you what to do, but i do think
> this is a good opportunity to find a "best practice" forking model in
> the Pd world.
> 
> 
> 
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