[PD] Cyclone future

[Dan Wilcox]

*zing!*

--------
Dan Wilcox
@danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika>
danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>
> On Feb 23, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't see why everyone is discussing names when we haven't even settled 
> the issue of bracket placement.
> 
> -Jonathan
> ae85b0319a14998c24b317d7e9de8352
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 4:59 PM, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> I think it's wisest to leave cyclone as it is (except for maintenance updates)
> and, if you want to write objects for compatibility with newer versions of
> Max simply start another library.  It won't be any trouble for people to
> install both of them, and the cyclone code is probably best left alone (as
> is much of Pd) just because it's old and you wouldn't want to be stuck with
> old ways of doing things.
> 
> Also, the 'name 'cyclone', although witty, has an unfortunate resonance for
> certain Europeans... I think it's best left alone.
> 
> cheers
> Miller
> 
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 06:46:29PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> > I'm seconding Dan on this, name ideas was something being proposed to me
> > and all before Fred shared his intention to stop working on "cyclone". I
> > didn't even liked the idea of forking cyclone then, the reason being that
> > there was no significant change for for projects, one only being able to be
> > updated...
> > 
> > 
> > now, from a previous thread
> > 
> > 2016-02-20 15:57 GMT-02:00 Matt Barber <brbrofsvl at gmail.com <mailto:brbrofsvl at gmail.com>>:
> > 
> > > If a Max 4.6 compatibility library is really necessary, perhaps that could
> > > be the fork with the new name.
> > >
> > 
> > I agree to Matt on this too, but with the remark that Max 4.6 compatibility
> > would also be present in the updates and further development of cyclone
> > 
> > keeping it simple, the whole issue camos with some of us wanting to
> > collaborate and work on updates of cyclone, and the current maintainer
> > having issues with it, it's not that he didn't want to spend his time
> > working on it, more like he was against that others would help him do that.
> > 
> > do we really need to fork in order to update a library keeping its original
> > goal?
> > 
> > I'm ok with whatever the community think it's best. I already started
> > working a lot on this and now I'm just on it, 20 new objects in the way, a
> > whole revision of all help files going on, it's happening...
> > 
> > cheers
> > 
> > 2016-02-23 18:08 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com>>:
> > 
> > > If neither krzysztof not Fred plan to continue development, why can’t it
> > > continue under the same name? (Keeping attribution of course!) I’d argue
> > > multiple libraries is more confusing to the user especially when they all
> > > provide roughly the same functionality but the main one is now very out of
> > > date. That, plus the fact that urging people to use [declare -lib cyclone]
> > > now requires urging people to do a batch find/replace for “cyclone” when,
> > > again, the functionality is the same.
> > >
> > > --------
> > > Dan Wilcox
> > > @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika>>
> > > danomatika.com
> > > robotcowboy.com
> > >
> > > On Feb 23, 2016, at 1:32 PM, pd-list-request at lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list-request at lists.iem.at> wrote:
> > >
> > > i therefore ask both fred and alexandre to change the name of their
> > > library, so that they cannot be confused with both the original cyclone
> > > library and with each other: neither of the forks is an (or /the/)
> > > "official" fork.
> > > for what it is worth, git makes it easy to incorporate changes between
> > > forks (using pull requests, cherry picking,...) even if the names are
> > > different!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Pd-list at lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list at lists.iem.at> mailing list
> > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list <http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list>
> 
> > >
> > >
> 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Pd-list at lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list at lists.iem.at> mailing list
> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list <http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list>
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Pd-list at lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list at lists.iem.at> mailing list
> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list <http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list>
> 
> 

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20160223/92758ae2/attachment-0001.html>