[PD] multi-language help patches

Esteban Viveros emviveros at gmail.com
Sat Feb 27 23:21:07 CET 2016


Portuguese translation of help patches are guaranteed! :)

Em sáb, 27 de fev de 2016 19:07, Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27 at hotmail.com>
escreveu:

> Probably an html server can provide both things, the html help AND the
> translated patch in the same url.
>
>
> Whats important is that in can be completed/translated by users.
>
>
> Wikipedia is the most familiar one to almost everyone. (perhaps I'm wrong
> here, not sure)
>
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> From: lucarda27 at hotmail.com
> To: pd-list at lists.iem.at
> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 21:33:25 +0000
>
> Subject: Re: [PD] multi-language help patches
>
> There are chances that we`re welcome at wikipedia.
>
>
>
>
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> From: lucarda27 at hotmail.com
> To: pd-list at lists.iem.at
> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 21:18:01 +0000
> Subject: Re: [PD] multi-language help patches
>
> Of course if we`re gonna use wikipedia.org as storage for encoded html
> information of a software we should tell them about it an ask for their
> permission.
>
>
> Probably they say no.
>
>
> So we will be looking for another server.
>
>
> But...
>
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> From: lucarda27 at hotmail.com
> To: pd-list at lists.iem.at
> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 20:37:37 +0000
> Subject: Re: [PD] multi-language help patches
>
> Eventually the user can make his particularly language translated patch:
>
>
>
> Or it can be obteined with some href and an Id, not sure if its posible:
>
>
> pd_object at wikipedia.org
>
>
>
>
> <code>
>
>
> #N canvas 20 43 698 447 12;
>
> #X floatatom 524 338 0 0 0;
>
> #X floatatom 353 338 0 0 0;
>
> #X floatatom 298 338 0 0 0;
>
> #X floatatom 413 338 0 0 0;
>
> #X floatatom 467 338 0 0 0;
>
> #X obj 524 311 <;
>
> #X obj 298 262 r left;
>
> #X obj 540 267 r right;
>
> #X floatatom 71 335 0 0 0;
>
> #X floatatom 19 334 0 0 0;
>
> #X floatatom 119 335 0 0 0;
>
> #X floatatom 163 334 0 0 0;
>
> #X obj 16 45 &;
>
> #X obj 66 45 |;
>
> #X obj 118 45 &&;
>
> #X obj 169 45 ||;
>
> #X obj 19 307 &;
>
> #X obj 71 308 |;
>
> #X obj 119 308 &&;
>
> #X obj 163 307 ||;
>
> #X text 13 73 uoyhbqrevfg qrepfgvb;
>
> #X obj 19 266 r left;
>
> #X obj 218 266 r right;
>
> #X obj 12 118 >;
>
> #X obj 61 118 >=;
>
> #X obj 114 118 ==;
>
> #X obj 215 119 <=;
>
> #X obj 262 119 <;
>
> #X text 11 153 ouyhqergf eqwrvgupoyhb;
>
> #X obj 298 312 >;
>
> #X obj 353 312 >=;
>
> #X obj 413 312 ==;
>
> #X obj 467 312 <=;
>
> #X text 16 190 piuqgherfpgiuhqerfg qerpfgiuberpigureg erpiuybqepirugbqerg
> qerpiyhbqperiugbqerg qepriyhbqepirgb
>
> piybqergipub iuqberifvuhq[iuerhgfv qifvubqe[riuh[uheqrg piubqrguh
>
> ;
>
> #X floatatom 410 65 0 0 0;
>
> #X obj 410 92 s left;
>
> #X floatatom 481 66 0 0 0;
>
> #X obj 481 94 t b f;
>
> #X obj 481 122 s left;
>
> #X obj 541 122 s right;
>
> #X obj 166 118 !=;
>
> #X text 377 42 ouyvqdev qewrpfgvy;
>
> #X floatatom 202 335 0 0 0;
>
> #X floatatom 246 334 0 0 0;
>
> #X obj 208 46 <<;
>
> #X obj 259 46 >>;
>
> #X obj 202 308 <<;
>
> #X obj 246 307 >>;
>
> #X text 421 383 ouyvqwerfhb version 0.32;
>
> #X connect 5 0 0 0;
>
> #X connect 6 0 29 0;
>
> #X connect 6 0 30 0;
>
> #X connect 6 0 31 0;
>
> #X connect 6 0 32 0;
>
> #X connect 6 0 5 0;
>
> #X connect 7 0 29 1;
>
> #X connect 7 0 30 1;
>
> #X connect 7 0 31 1;
>
> #X connect 7 0 32 1;
>
> #X connect 7 0 5 1;
>
> #X connect 16 0 9 0;
>
> #X connect 17 0 8 0;
>
> #X connect 18 0 10 0;
>
> #X connect 19 0 11 0;
>
> #X connect 21 0 16 0;
>
> #X connect 21 0 17 0;
>
> #X connect 21 0 18 0;
>
> #X connect 21 0 19 0;
>
> #X connect 21 0 46 0;
>
> #X connect 21 0 47 0;
>
> #X connect 22 0 19 1;
>
> #X connect 22 0 18 1;
>
> #X connect 22 0 17 1;
>
> #X connect 22 0 16 1;
>
> #X connect 22 0 47 1;
>
> #X connect 22 0 46 1;
>
> #X connect 29 0 2 0;
>
> #X connect 30 0 1 0;
>
> #X connect 31 0 3 0;
>
> #X connect 32 0 4 0;
>
> #X connect 34 0 35 0;
>
> #X connect 36 0 37 0;
>
> #X connect 37 0 38 0;
>
> #X connect 37 1 39 0;
>
> #X connect 46 0 42 0;
>
> #X connect 47 0 43 0;
>
>
> </code>
>
> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: emviveros at gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 19:19:33 +0000
> Subject: Re: [PD] multi-language help patches
> To: lucarda27 at hotmail.com; pd-list at lists.iem.at
>
>
> Em sáb, 27 de fev de 2016 15:46, Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27 at hotmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
> As an sketch:
>
>
> pd nameoftheobject @wikipedia.org
>
>
> pd osc~ or with the underscore pd_osc~
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pd_osc~
>
>
> It will be slow to fill objects but...
>
>
>
> > I feel one of the best aspects of PD are the examples via help patches
> so maybe splitting things up outside of PD might work against that?
>
>
> That is definitely a great feature. If there's a way to keep that and add
> sane multi-language support, that would
> be the way to go.
>
>
>
> Totally agree with that but perhaps that is just for the international
> english default (the standard default help system). Other languages could
> be HELPED in html format.
>
>
> I`ve also proposed the translation of just the comments in *-help.pd
> files, but that seems difficult and language packs...
>
>
> I think a comment object with better features yet is a great feature, but
> the weighing the high development cost, this html solution for helps, can
> do the community more active once it documentation, maybe,  can privilege
> the
> http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info for example to promote more organized
> collaboration of learning issues between pd community.
>
>
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>
>
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