[PD] Can you close source of Pd patches (for commercial development)?

[Scott R. Looney]

hi Matti - the only thing i've seen that is something similar to what
you're asking is the Heavy toolchain from Enzien Audio based on the online
Tannhauser compiler. it can convert a PD patch into C++ where it can then
be used as a plugin for different platforms, including in game audio
middleware. the service is a commercial service if the product you're
planning to use is commercial in nature. at that point you could use it in
something like JUCE to do what you need to make it a full plugin or
standalone app. many commercial companies use PD or Max to prototype what
they eventually sell as commercial software. Joe White is on the list and
may have more info than me on commercial uses of Heavy:
https://enzienaudio.com/

scott

On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Matti Viljamaa <mviljamaa at kapsi.fi> wrote:

> Or even straight C -> binary and then have Pd open the binary as patch.
>
> -Matti
>
> On 07 May 2016, at 22:01, Matti Viljamaa <mviljamaa at kapsi.fi> wrote:
>
> Anyone know if compiling Pd patch to C could offer a possibility, e.g. as
> an extension of Pd?
>
> There are some around:
> http://resenv.media.mit.edu/PuDAC/sw.html
> https://github.com/sharebrained/pd_compiler
>
> So patch -> C -> binary and then have Pd somehow open the binary as patch?
>
> -Matti
>
> On 07 May 2016, at 21:08, Matti Viljamaa <mviljamaa at kapsi.fi> wrote:
>
> I think being open to commercial development could make it attractive to
> develop e.g. high quality oscillators and filters for Pd.
> Commercial synthesisers and effects are often better than freeware.
>
> Reaktor has a lot of good free ensembles, but development wise its also
> more refined product (i.e. the development ought to be less painful).
>
> I think it’d be interesting to be able to have a platform where one can
> combine open source and commercial “modules”. Best of the both worlds, so
> to speak.
>
> -Matti
>
> On 07 May 2016, at 21:04, Pagano, Patrick <pat at digitalworlds.ufl.edu>
> wrote:
>
> But as I suspected it sounds like your intention is to sell pd patches
> back to the community?
>
> Have you seen
> Monolog X
>
>
> Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A
> Interactive Media & Education
> +1352.226.2016
> https://patrickrpagano.wordpress.com/
>
>
> On May 7, 2016, at 1:37 PM, Matti Viljamaa <mviljamaa at kapsi.fi> wrote:
>
> What about using Pd as a C/C++ library and writing the patch that way? Or
> perhaps LibPd?
> Would this allow the patch to be compiled as a stand-alone program? Yes?
>
> The easiest would be if there was a way to open a patch in binary form in
> Pd.
>
> What I’ve been envisioning would be to create “modules” for Pd similar to
> Reaktor’s Blocks that would
> allow for a more high-level patching and usage of Pd. And it could
> motivate developers to develop patches
> in a more standardized “blocks” form, rather than as unstandardised
> patches.
>
> Reason, I’ve been wanting to see modular synthesis properly realised in
> Pd. But I wouldn’t want to
> spend effort on developing modules that I cannot profit from, since I
> could do that using some other platform.
>
> -Matti
>
> On 07 May 2016, at 20:29, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu> wrote:
>
>
> You'd have to modify Pd if you want to be able to run patches and
>
> keep it a secret how the patch works.  I don't think people often feel the
>
> need to do that but it wouldn't be hard to do.
>
>
> cheers
>
> Miller
>
>
> On Sat, May 07, 2016 at 08:14:05PM +0300, Matti Viljamaa wrote:
>
> But how do you close and distribute a Pd patch so it’s not viewable? Can
> you open a Pd patch distributed as binary?
>
>
> I only found this:
>
>
> How do I compile a Pd-patch to run as a stand-alone application?
>
> https://puredata.info/docs/faq/standalone <
> https://puredata.info/docs/faq/standalone>
>
>
> -Matti
>
>
>
>
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