[PD] Can you close source of Pd patches (for commercial development)?

[Scott R. Looney]

+1 on Patrick's idea! and to continue to some extent where Patrick left
off, you can use magicolo's uPD project as a jumping off point:
https://github.com/Magicolo/uPD. i tried it out but and had issues
understanding this approach personally but i think it might hold some
potential, as it can instance PD multiple times rather than just once.

best,
scott

On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Pagano, Patrick <pat at digitalworlds.ufl.edu>
wrote:

> Want to make some dough off of pd?
>
>
> Make a Pd Unity3D plugin so i can drop my patches in as sound
> sources/effects in Unity3D or UDK without custom coding.
>
>
> pp
>
>
>
>
> *Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A*
> Audio and Projection Design Faculty
> Digital Worlds Institute
> University of Florida, USA
> (352)294-2020
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Matti Viljamaa <mviljamaa at kapsi.fi>
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 7, 2016 3:13 PM
> *To:* Pagano, Patrick
> *Cc:* pd-list at iem.at; Miller Puckette; pd-list at mail.iem.at
> *Subject:* Re: [PD] Can you close source of Pd patches (for commercial
> development)?
>
> Or even straight C -> binary and then have Pd open the binary as patch.
>
> -Matti
>
> On 07 May 2016, at 22:01, Matti Viljamaa <mviljamaa at kapsi.fi> wrote:
>
> Anyone know if compiling Pd patch to C could offer a possibility, e.g. as
> an extension of Pd?
>
> There are some around:
> http://resenv.media.mit.edu/PuDAC/sw.html
> https://github.com/sharebrained/pd_compiler
>
> So patch -> C -> binary and then have Pd somehow open the binary as patch?
>
> -Matti
>
> On 07 May 2016, at 21:08, Matti Viljamaa <mviljamaa at kapsi.fi> wrote:
>
> I think being open to commercial development could make it attractive to
> develop e.g. high quality oscillators and filters for Pd.
> Commercial synthesisers and effects are often better than freeware.
>
> Reaktor has a lot of good free ensembles, but development wise its also
> more refined product (i.e. the development ought to be less painful).
>
> I think it’d be interesting to be able to have a platform where one can
> combine open source and commercial “modules”. Best of the both worlds, so
> to speak.
>
> -Matti
>
> On 07 May 2016, at 21:04, Pagano, Patrick <pat at digitalworlds.ufl.edu>
> wrote:
>
> But as I suspected it sounds like your intention is to sell pd patches
> back to the community?
>
> Have you seen
> Monolog X
>
>
> Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A
> Interactive Media & Education
> +1352.226.2016
> https://patrickrpagano.wordpress.com/
>
>
> On May 7, 2016, at 1:37 PM, Matti Viljamaa <mviljamaa at kapsi.fi> wrote:
>
> What about using Pd as a C/C++ library and writing the patch that way? Or
> perhaps LibPd?
> Would this allow the patch to be compiled as a stand-alone program? Yes?
>
> The easiest would be if there was a way to open a patch in binary form in
> Pd.
>
> What I’ve been envisioning would be to create “modules” for Pd similar to
> Reaktor’s Blocks that would
> allow for a more high-level patching and usage of Pd. And it could
> motivate developers to develop patches
> in a more standardized “blocks” form, rather than as unstandardised
> patches.
>
> Reason, I’ve been wanting to see modular synthesis properly realised in
> Pd. But I wouldn’t want to
> spend effort on developing modules that I cannot profit from, since I
> could do that using some other platform.
>
> -Matti
>
> On 07 May 2016, at 20:29, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu> wrote:
>
>
> You'd have to modify Pd if you want to be able to run patches and
>
> keep it a secret how the patch works.  I don't think people often feel the
>
> need to do that but it wouldn't be hard to do.
>
>
> cheers
>
> Miller
>
>
> On Sat, May 07, 2016 at 08:14:05PM +0300, Matti Viljamaa wrote:
>
> But how do you close and distribute a Pd patch so it’s not viewable? Can
> you open a Pd patch distributed as binary?
>
>
> I only found this:
>
>
> How do I compile a Pd-patch to run as a stand-alone application?
>
> https://puredata.info/docs/faq/standalone <
> https://puredata.info/docs/faq/standalone>
>
>
> -Matti
>
>
>
>
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