[PD] Can you close source of Pd patches (for commercial development)?

[Pagano, Patrick]

Several of them like magicolo are what I can "proof of concept"
They are not integrated nor worthy of purchase so to speak.
I am quite familiar with github and Google.

Sent from my iPad

On May 7, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Scott R. Looney <scottrlooney at gmail.com<mailto:scottrlooney at gmail.com>> wrote:

+1 on Patrick's idea! and to continue to some extent where Patrick left off, you can use magicolo's uPD project as a jumping off point: https://github.com/Magicolo/uPD. i tried it out but and had issues understanding this approach personally but i think it might hold some potential, as it can instance PD multiple times rather than just once.

best,
scott

On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Pagano, Patrick <pat at digitalworlds.ufl.edu<mailto:pat at digitalworlds.ufl.edu>> wrote:

Want to make some dough off of pd?


Make a Pd Unity3D plugin so i can drop my patches in as sound sources/effects in Unity3D or UDK without custom coding.


pp




Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A
Audio and Projection Design Faculty
Digital Worlds Institute
University of Florida, USA
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From: Matti Viljamaa <mviljamaa at kapsi.fi<mailto:mviljamaa at kapsi.fi>>
Sent: Saturday, May 7, 2016 3:13 PM
To: Pagano, Patrick
Cc: pd-list at iem.at<mailto:pd-list at iem.at>; Miller Puckette; pd-list at mail.iem.at<mailto:pd-list at mail.iem.at>
Subject: Re: [PD] Can you close source of Pd patches (for commercial development)?

Or even straight C -> binary and then have Pd open the binary as patch.

-Matti

On 07 May 2016, at 22:01, Matti Viljamaa <mviljamaa at kapsi.fi<mailto:mviljamaa at kapsi.fi>> wrote:

Anyone know if compiling Pd patch to C could offer a possibility, e.g. as an extension of Pd?

There are some around:
http://resenv.media.mit.edu/PuDAC/sw.html
https://github.com/sharebrained/pd_compiler

So patch -> C -> binary and then have Pd somehow open the binary as patch?

-Matti

On 07 May 2016, at 21:08, Matti Viljamaa <mviljamaa at kapsi.fi<mailto:mviljamaa at kapsi.fi>> wrote:

I think being open to commercial development could make it attractive to develop e.g. high quality oscillators and filters for Pd.
Commercial synthesisers and effects are often better than freeware.

Reaktor has a lot of good free ensembles, but development wise its also more refined product (i.e. the development ought to be less painful).

I think it’d be interesting to be able to have a platform where one can combine open source and commercial “modules”. Best of the both worlds, so to speak.

-Matti

On 07 May 2016, at 21:04, Pagano, Patrick <pat at digitalworlds.ufl.edu<mailto:pat at digitalworlds.ufl.edu>> wrote:

But as I suspected it sounds like your intention is to sell pd patches back to the community?

Have you seen
Monolog X


Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A
Interactive Media & Education
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https://patrickrpagano.wordpress.com/


On May 7, 2016, at 1:37 PM, Matti Viljamaa <mviljamaa at kapsi.fi<mailto:mviljamaa at kapsi.fi>> wrote:

What about using Pd as a C/C++ library and writing the patch that way? Or perhaps LibPd?
Would this allow the patch to be compiled as a stand-alone program? Yes?

The easiest would be if there was a way to open a patch in binary form in Pd.

What I’ve been envisioning would be to create “modules” for Pd similar to Reaktor’s Blocks that would
allow for a more high-level patching and usage of Pd. And it could motivate developers to develop patches
in a more standardized “blocks” form, rather than as unstandardised patches.

Reason, I’ve been wanting to see modular synthesis properly realised in Pd. But I wouldn’t want to
spend effort on developing modules that I cannot profit from, since I could do that using some other platform.

-Matti

On 07 May 2016, at 20:29, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu<mailto:msp at ucsd.edu>> wrote:

You'd have to modify Pd if you want to be able to run patches and
keep it a secret how the patch works.  I don't think people often feel the
need to do that but it wouldn't be hard to do.

cheers
Miller

On Sat, May 07, 2016 at 08:14:05PM +0300, Matti Viljamaa wrote:
But how do you close and distribute a Pd patch so it’s not viewable? Can you open a Pd patch distributed as binary?

I only found this:

How do I compile a Pd-patch to run as a stand-alone application?
https://puredata.info/docs/faq/standalone <https://puredata.info/docs/faq/standalone>

-Matti



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