[PD] Pd 0.47-0 OSX Tk 8.6 test builds

[Dan Wilcox]

> aaand we seem to be good!

Cool.

> the font size in tk86 is smaller but looks clearer.

That’s related to the TK Cocoa backend rendering which brings the retina support.

> the tk84 version reminds me of the current PD look/feel.

It’s using the same Wish.app that coms with the pd source.

> so far no crashes but i didn't test a lot. looks like you're getting there!


I have a performance coming up on Friday I’m preparing for, so I’ll be using one of the builds. Eat my own dog food.

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Dan Wilcox
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> On May 30, 2016, at 11:19 PM, Scott R. Looney <scottrlooney at gmail.com> wrote:
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> best,
> scott
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> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hah yeah, you;re good. Just making sure.
> 
> Actually, it was my fault: there was a bad line of Tcl causing problems. I just generated another set of builds. http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/ <http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/>
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> Dan Wilcox
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>> On May 30, 2016, at 12:50 PM, Scott R. Looney <scottrlooney at gmail.com <mailto:scottrlooney at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> well, i'm pretty sure it's a 64 bit machine. i'm running a Core i5 (3750K). it's a hackintosh on 10.8.5. i've used 64 bit builds of PD 0.46 with no issues. i just double checked and 0.46 starts fine. i'm reasonably techy, just shy of being a C++ coder (my exp is mainly in Unity C# scripting).
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>> best,
>> scott
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>> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Also, not to offend or question technical know-how-it-ness, but do you have a 64bit CPU? I only ask as, if you’re running an older OSX, you might be on an older laptop with a Core Duo which is 32 bit only.
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>> Just double checking :)
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>> Dan Wilcox
>> @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika>
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>>> On May 30, 2016, at 12:21 PM, Scott R. Looney <scottrlooney at gmail.com <mailto:scottrlooney at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>> update - both 64 bit builds are still hanging. haven't tried command line yet, but tk84 bounces in the Dock and force quit shows Not Responding, and tk86/64 starts but has no windows. quitting via menu or key shortcut works however. also, build size on tk86/64 seems quite large in comparison (22-24MB as opposed to about 9 for the 32 bit version). i'll try to get more information.
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>>> best,
>>> scott
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>>> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> So the 64 bit build just hangs on start with nothing to indicate why? I hate when that happens :P Must be a Tk issue and might involve a build setting that’s missing.
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>>> Dan Wilcox
>>> @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika>
>>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
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>>>> On May 30, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Scott R. Looney <scottrlooney at gmail.com <mailto:scottrlooney at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>>> wow - that kinda sucks. just FYI the 32 bit build of tk86 does work, so hopefully you can narrow it down to whatever you did for the 64 bit build.
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>>>> best,
>>>> scott
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>>>> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 2:52 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> added quirk of not being able to quit via menu. quitting by shortcut works fine though.
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>>>> Cmd+Q menu binding now fixed in latest builds: http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds <http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds>
>>>>> as for the 64 bit tk86 build, i tried to run it from the command line and was successful but it behaved the same way as before and nothing printed. perhaps a verbose flag is needed? haven't tried the 32 bit build
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>>>> Yeah, that can be caused by a Tcl error that just hangs the gui on startup without any prints or errors. Whenever that happens, I have to backtrack what I last changed as there’s no way to debug. :P
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>>>> Dan Wilcox
>>>> @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika>
>>>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
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>>>>> On May 29, 2016, at 7:59 PM, Scott R. Looney <scottrlooney at gmail.com <mailto:scottrlooney at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>>>> the tk84 version seems to work correctly, meaning the PD window comes up and i can add a patcher/canvas window.
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>>>>> best,
>>>>> scott
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> Does the tk84 version work?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> hi Dan, this one isn't crashing on start but it's unresponsive and no window shows up. in addition i cannot manually quit. OS 10.8.5.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That means there is a Tcl/Tk error. Can you run the app from the commandline to see what it’s printing?
>>>>> 
>>>>>>  i wasn't certain that 10.8.5 has tk 8.6 installed already.
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>>>>> Also, you don’t need to have Tk 8.6 installed, it’s included inside the Pd app bundle.
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>>>>> Dan Wilcox
>>>>> @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika>
>>>>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
>>>>> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>
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