[PD] w32 Deken package issues.

[Colet Patrice]

I just realized by reading mrpeach Makefile that linker uses obj files 
from installed version of PureData, so I've installed pd-0.47-0 and 
compiled tcpserver.dll with windows 6.1,
it's attached, you may find out that this one doesn't need 
pthreadGC3.dll anymore, if it's true I could make deken packages of 
externals that only relies on PureData libs.



Le 10/07/2016 16:18, patrice colet a écrit :
> Hi Lucas,
>
>
> Le 10/07/2016 à 01:32, Lucas Cordiviola a écrit :
>>
>>     /Hi Lucas, why don't you recompile the externals with static
>>     libraries?/
>>
>>
>> Hi Patrice ,
>>
>> I've never compiled anything and also I don't write C code.
>>
>> What does static libraries means? It is adding the system.dll to the 
>> object.dll?
>>
> For a static linking we need the .a files, not the .dll  that's the 
> hardcore part because if there is no .a we have to import functions 
> with dlltools.
> That's why I think IOhannes suggested to use first the dll provided by 
> PureData (pthread) at recompilation.
>
> The third party dlls can also be provided by third party softwares 
> (eg: for pdlua install lua5.3 and add luadist lib folder to PureData 
> path).
>
> This also should be indicated by deken during install that we need to 
> add third party software for having things working.
>
>> If that was the case anyway we have to detect which dll needs that.
>>
>
> The library dependences names can be found through the linker command 
> line in Makefile prepended with "-l" characters.
>
> Detecting could be done by referencing all system DLL provided by 
> pd-extended and doing a script for detecting those libraries in 
> linking command lines found in 
> pure-data-svn/externals/myexternal/Makefile.
>
>
>> Or are you saying that *you* can recompile all w32 deken packages?
>>
>
> Unfortunately I don't have a consistent windows machine, and little 
> spare time to do that, but I'd like to help windows customers to snap 
> my code.
>
>
>> Let me know.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>>
>> > To: pd-list at lists.iem.at
>> > From: colet.patrice at free.fr
>> > Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 16:42:36 +0200
>> > Subject: Re: [PD] w32 Deken package issues.
>> >
>> > Hi Lucas, why don't you recompile the externals with static libraries?
>> >
>> >
>> > Le 09/07/2016 à 13:31, Lucas Cordiviola a écrit :
>> > >
>> > > hi,
>> > > On 07/03/2016 08:48 AM, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
>> > > > Type “missing” in deken`s search bar.
>> > > > Then put all dlls in the pd/bin directory.
>> > > while i appreciate the initiative to provide missing system
>> > > libraries, i
>> > > think this is the wrong way to do it.
>> > > #1 a deken package should be self-contained.
>> > > if a given deken package lacks a library (e.g. libpthreadGCC3.dll)
>> > > then
>> > > it should provide that library itself.
>> > > (alternatively, deken could be (theoretically; practically i see a
>> > > number of hurdles) enhanced to explicitely state such 
>> dependencies (so
>> > > installing "foo" would also install "pthreadGCC3")
>> > > #2 a deken package must be installable by deken. the requierement to
>> > > "then put all the dlls into pd/bin" contradicts this.
>> > > until deken can be told to install into pd/bin, i think that though
>> > > shall not abuse the deken package system for such things.
>> > > i'd therefore rather have the 'missingDLLs' package removed from
>> > > puredata.info.
>> > > we *should* come up with a proper solution for the problem though.
>> > > fmasdr
>> > > IOhannes
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hi IOhannes,
>> > >
>> > > I've been thinking on the issue and did some tests that gave good 
>> results.
>> > >
>> > > First good result is that the missing .dlls placed on the same 
>> folder
>> > > as the external seems to work, I did a couple of tests and both 
>> worked.
>> > >
>> > > Second, I made a patch that creates objects from every .dll in a 
>> given
>> > > dir, the target dir is obviously the deken PKG extracted folder, 
>> this
>> > > speeds up checking PKGs.
>> > >
>> > > And third, I found http://www.dependencywalker.com/ wich provide 
>> some
>> > > useful info about which dll is missing. For example for zexy,
>> > > “libgnurx-0.dll” is called by matchbox.dll.
>> > >
>> > > The patch that I made also gives false errors because some objects
>> > > need creation args.
>> > >
>> > > I attach a zip with the patch along with 2 needed externals.
>> > >
>> > > Let me know what you think.
>> > >
>> > > I'm thinking on preparing a win10 system to check packages and 
>> provide
>> > > some reports.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Salutti,
>> > > Lucarda.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>> > >
>> > >
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