[PD] current status of [midiout]

[Christof Ressi]

I think there seems to be a misunderstanding. I never advocated to rename [midiout] to [sysexout] - on the contrary!
I used an old post by Martin to show that in the past [midiout] used to be broken on some systems or behave differently. For example, Martin apparantly could only send sysex, but no channel messages.

For me on Win7 [midiout] works fine in a way that I can send *all* kind of valid MIDI messages. I just wanted to make sure that this is now the case for all major systems.

regarding a list method for [midiout]: since all popular objects for streaming bytes [netsend -b], [udpsend], [comport], etc. accept lists, it is somewhat counterintuitive that this is not the case for [midiout]. if you want to keep this kind of special behaviour, it would be cool to make it clear in the help patch - to prevent future users from tearing their hair out :-)

Christof




> Gesendet: Freitag, 29. Juli 2016 um 02:11 Uhr
> Von: "Miller Puckette" <msp at ucsd.edu>
> An: "Christof Ressi" <christof.ressi at gmx.at>
> Cc: Pd-List <pd-list at lists.iem.at>
> Betreff: Re: [PD] current status of [midiout]
>
> My plan is simply never to make any incompatible change if I can help it -
> so midiout is there for good.
> 
> I don't see the need for any 'sysexout' object - 'midiout' does sysex and/or
> whatever else you want to throw at it.  On linux you can even use it to
> output incorrectly formed MIDI if you want - for instance to stress-test
> MIDI input devices.
> 
> cheers
> Miller
> 
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 03:11:47PM +0200, Christof Ressi wrote:
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > what's the current status of the [midiout] object? there have been warnings in the past and the help patch doesn't say much about it. 
> > for example i found this old thread in the list archives:
> > 
> > https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2010-02/076074.html
> > 
> > here Martin says:
> > 
> > >> Shouldn't [midiout] be renamed to [sysexout]? It only does sysex, you can't send any other kind of MIDI message with [midiout].
> > 
> > I'm on Win7 and [midiout] works like a charm. I can send both channel and system messages (though I have only tried system common and system realtime so far, still have to test sysex). I can easily play MIDI files with [mrpeach/midifile] -> [drip] -> [midiout] on my old Roland D110 :-).
> > 
> > my question is: have all those supposed issues with [midiout] been fixed? does it work the same way on all systems? are there any pitfalls I have to consider beforehand?
> > 
> > @Miller: would you mind adding a note to the helpfile that [midiout] only accepts single characters as floats but no lists? it took me some time to figure that out... or even better: adding a list method? ;-)
> > 
> > Christof
> > 
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