[PD] current status of [midiout]

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

another question, does [midiin] receive sysex messages?

cheers

2016-07-29 6:53 GMT-03:00 Christof Ressi <christof.ressi at gmx.at>:

> I think there seems to be a misunderstanding. I never advocated to rename
> [midiout] to [sysexout] - on the contrary!
> I used an old post by Martin to show that in the past [midiout] used to be
> broken on some systems or behave differently. For example, Martin
> apparantly could only send sysex, but no channel messages.
>
> For me on Win7 [midiout] works fine in a way that I can send *all* kind of
> valid MIDI messages. I just wanted to make sure that this is now the case
> for all major systems.
>
> regarding a list method for [midiout]: since all popular objects for
> streaming bytes [netsend -b], [udpsend], [comport], etc. accept lists, it
> is somewhat counterintuitive that this is not the case for [midiout]. if
> you want to keep this kind of special behaviour, it would be cool to make
> it clear in the help patch - to prevent future users from tearing their
> hair out :-)
>
> Christof
>
>
>
>
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 29. Juli 2016 um 02:11 Uhr
> > Von: "Miller Puckette" <msp at ucsd.edu>
> > An: "Christof Ressi" <christof.ressi at gmx.at>
> > Cc: Pd-List <pd-list at lists.iem.at>
> > Betreff: Re: [PD] current status of [midiout]
> >
> > My plan is simply never to make any incompatible change if I can help it
> -
> > so midiout is there for good.
> >
> > I don't see the need for any 'sysexout' object - 'midiout' does sysex
> and/or
> > whatever else you want to throw at it.  On linux you can even use it to
> > output incorrectly formed MIDI if you want - for instance to stress-test
> > MIDI input devices.
> >
> > cheers
> > Miller
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 03:11:47PM +0200, Christof Ressi wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > what's the current status of the [midiout] object? there have been
> warnings in the past and the help patch doesn't say much about it.
> > > for example i found this old thread in the list archives:
> > >
> > > https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2010-02/076074.html
> > >
> > > here Martin says:
> > >
> > > >> Shouldn't [midiout] be renamed to [sysexout]? It only does sysex,
> you can't send any other kind of MIDI message with [midiout].
> > >
> > > I'm on Win7 and [midiout] works like a charm. I can send both channel
> and system messages (though I have only tried system common and system
> realtime so far, still have to test sysex). I can easily play MIDI files
> with [mrpeach/midifile] -> [drip] -> [midiout] on my old Roland D110 :-).
> > >
> > > my question is: have all those supposed issues with [midiout] been
> fixed? does it work the same way on all systems? are there any pitfalls I
> have to consider beforehand?
> > >
> > > @Miller: would you mind adding a note to the helpfile that [midiout]
> only accepts single characters as floats but no lists? it took me some time
> to figure that out... or even better: adding a list method? ;-)
> > >
> > > Christof
> > >
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