[PD] cyclist

Alexandre Torres Porres porres at gmail.com
Mon Oct 17 02:44:13 CEST 2016

Well, for those who don't know, cyclist converts binary max files to text
so they could be opened in Pd.

It was part of cyclone up to alpha56 (included in the last extended 0.43-4)
but removed along with maxmode library in cyclone alpha57 and 0.2beta1.
Other things removed then as build targets are the hammer and sickle
libraries, as well as the cyclone library - which included non alphanumeric
objects that would also be lost, but were then included into a new library
called "nettles".

Now, cyclist works well with the maxmode library, which, as I mentioned,
has been discarded.

But I see now that cyclone 02.beta3, available only for windows, has
cyclist back on, though maxmode is still out of the game. Not sure why and
how good it'd be to have it without maxmode, and I also find confusing that
there are conflicting versions up in deken (beta1 for mac/linux and beta3
for windows).

Sometime ago it was discussed on this list wether maxmode was being used at
all before removing it from cyclone. I had the idea that this was relevant
over a decade ago, but that today was probably best forgotten for many
issues regarding compatibility between max and pd files... so I voted for
its death.

Me, Matt and Derek are working on the cyclone code and still feel that way
about maxmode, but also about cyclist. We plan to leave it in the code base
but not as build targets, just as "old and not used anymore legacy code
from cyclone" in a maintenance folder.

But we're restoring the cyclone library name to keep the non alphanumeric
objects there as it used to be until alpha56, or in the latest Pd-Extended
distributions still in use out there.

but the main question in our reorganising is that if keeping cyclist out of
the build system along maxmode (as it is the case with the current
canonical 0.2beta1 versions for linux and mac) a good idea as we think it


2016-10-16 9:43 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>:

> Perhaps the question is, did anyone ever used cyclist? Tell us about that
> experience.
> 2016-10-14 1:41 GMT-03:00 Matt Barber <brbrofsvl at gmail.com>:
>> Hi list:
>> Does anyone really use cyclist?
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