[PD] cross platforms issues with displaying fonts in vanilla but not in Purr Data

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

please let me reinforce something, cause I feel like I'm repeating myself a
lot... maybe I'm not making myself clear, maybe I'm a very confusing guy
and troubled mind, but it's been over 30 messages and all I'm really saying
(all along, from the very first message) is this:

hey:
1- Purr Data and Extended look like and consistent... they give you fonts
you need, and all patches look nice in cross platforms.
2- vanilla doesn't give you fonts you need and when you get them, it looks
bad, inconsistent in between different platforms and even different than in
Extended/Purr Data with the same fonts...

and all I have is a request: - please lets fix this vanilla issue

sorry, dont get me wrong, I love that you're with me here and I'm also
willing to help and investigate this, but it's just that it seems we're not
making much progress and that I'm not making my point clear.

cheers

2017-02-12 2:55 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>:

> well, I didnt send the attachment, there you go
>
> 2017-02-12 2:55 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>:
>
>> and here's good old pd extended 0.42-5 in my mac loading courier without
>> anything looking funny... see? not a fonts issue
>>
>> extended does load courier and it looks quite similar to vanilla in
>> windows with courier...
>>
>> 2017-02-12 2:51 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> weirdly enough, courier in mac os looks exactly like dejavu sans on
>>> windows... see attachment.
>>>
>>> I dont think this is a fonts issue, seems like a pd vanilla issue,
>>> cause, like I've shown, extended in windows with dejavu sans looks
>>> "better", actually looks just like Monaco in Mac OS, and also the same as
>>> Purr Data. More importantly, it looks much bettern than in vanilla in
>>> windows with the same font...
>>>
>>> And now vanilla on a mac with courier looks all crazy and different than
>>> in windows... I just suspect vanilla is not handling stuff well, but I'm
>>> too ignorant on the subject to discuss it or take a real guess. I'm just
>>> trying to point the issue.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-02-12 1:59 GMT-02:00 Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27 at hotmail.com>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes you’re right.
>>>>
>>>> I just use coll-help from your git.
>>>>
>>>> My confusion comes cuz I’m used to ”Consolas” font, and this seems to
>>>> behave better.
>>>>
>>>> Also switching back to Courier is better than dejavu.
>>>>
>>>> Both Consolas and Courier behave better than Dejavu.
>>>>
>>>> Can you switch to Courier on your Mac and send a screen-shot?
>>>>
>>>> It could be that Courier might be the best cross-platform font, as is
>>>> historically one of the first monospace fonts (typewriter era).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 12, 2017 2:31 AM
>>>> *To:* Lucas Cordiviola
>>>> *Cc:* pd-list at lists.iem.at
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [PD] cross platforms issues with displaying fonts in
>>>> vanilla but not in Purr Data
>>>>
>>>> ok, dont know how I managed to screw up that badly, but now the
>>>> -font-weight normal" flag works! It doesn't look "bold" anymore, but it
>>>> still takes a lot of space outside the patch area... whereas in Extended
>>>> that doesn't happen (intriguing).
>>>>
>>>> and it's funny how vanilla is using "bold" by default
>>>>
>>>> [image: Imagem inline 1]
>>>>
>>>> 2017-02-12 0:25 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> funny how I see no difference with -font-weight normal or bold in
>>>>> vanilla, just looks the same (and bad)
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-02-12 0:22 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-02-12 0:11 GMT-02:00 Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27 at hotmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure, I’m also happy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I`m not on my computer atm, but if iirc the coll-help you did looks
>>>>>>> better on my pc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cool, i've been working on it since we put cyclone 0.3 pre-alpha 4 or
>>>>>> something, but it's still the same font size and averything
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #N canvas 553 23 558 592 10;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> check if its the same file both on Windows & Mac.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it's the same file, from git, can't go wrong, same one, same size
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, what really intrigues me is why it looks "ok" in extended, but
>>>>>> "weird" in vanilla, if it is the same font and all... guess we need to
>>>>>> understand that
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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