[PD] Pd + ASIO

Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27 at hotmail.com
Tue Feb 21 00:42:31 CET 2017

May be this helps.

Pd's block size in preferences controls the actual ASIO buffer for the sound card.

For more clarity on this use asio4all, when changing Pd's block size that reflects on the actual ASIO used buffer.

(Pd's pref blocksize is ONLY for ASIO and has nothing to do with your patch blocksize)

Try Pd's pref blocksize to 256.

After that check the current scarlett ms numbers.

Did it change? And is now controled by Pd?

This may require restarting Pd and possible restart of the soundcard.

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From: Pd-list <pd-list-bounces at lists.iem.at> on behalf of Christof Ressi <christof.ressi at gmx.at>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 11:24 PM
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Subject: [PD] Pd + ASIO


I've started porting a Pd project to C++ and I'm working with the RtAudio library to interface with my soundcard (Focusrite Scarlett 6i6). There I noticed that I get a *much* better performance than in Pd regarding audio IO. I can play several thousand sawtooth tones with a blocksize of 1 and a buffer size of 64 samples (~ 1ms in my ASIO settings) and still get a clean and stable output on my Lenovo L440 laptop. In Pd, on the other hand, I get dropouts on a single testtone when I put the ASIO latency down to the same value. The 'delay' setting in Pd is 20ms - which is quite generous - so for me it's clearly an IO problem. I don't know if the reason is Pd or rather portaudio, though.

The Focusrite Scarlett interfaces are 'special' in a way that they only let you choose a latency in ms, which is pretty annoying in some circumstances.

I noticed some things when playing around with RtAudio:

If you requeste a buffersize (via RtAudio::openStream) which is *smaller* than the current latency set in Scarlett MixControl (in ms), it will pick that latency instead and you get strange buffersizes like 442 samples (~ 10 ms). If your requested buffersize is *greater*, you get this very buffersize.

Regarding performance: choosing 1 ms in MixControl and requesting 64 samples via RtAudio works beautifully, but in Pd I cannot achieve any decent and stable IO with the same latency setting.

I don't know if I'd go so far and say that ASIO is broken in Pd, but on some soundcards it's definitely not working well. I have the suspicion that Scarlett's odd latency setting might be the culprit. But I remember that I also had bad results with an RME babyface. I have to check again, though.

Does anyone have more insight in how Pd communicates with portaudio when using ASIO? How is the ASIO buffersize being handled? What are your experiences with latency settings for Pd + ASIO?


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