[PD] oops (did a bad thing in puredata.info)

Alexandre Torres Porres porres at gmail.com
Sun Mar 26 22:06:49 CEST 2017

2017-03-26 5:02 GMT-03:00 Fred Jan Kraan <fjkraan at xs4all.nl>:

> Starting from scratch wouldn't be too bad as most data was outdated. But
> as I said, the download page is mainly for downloading files and some extra
> info, not as generic as the normal wiki pages.

Ok, yeah, seems that a cyclone page in the download section then is not
pertinent anymore, as we'd have to use it for releasing packages, and since
deken, that is kind of a waste of energy...

But anyway, we have agreed not to use it for downloads, but just present
some general info, mention that people should use deken and point to the
repositories. In this case it seems it's best to just have a simple wiki
page on puredata.info outside the downloads page, huh?


2017-03-26 17:02 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>:

> 2017-03-26 15:24 GMT-03:00 IOhannes m zmölnig <zmoelnig at iem.at>:
>> On 03/26/2017 05:08 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>> > I was trying to remove the old featured releases from the page (alpha55
>> and
>> > the "experimental" alpha57)
>> why would you want to do that?
> cyclone 0.1-alpha55 was featured as the *latest* stable release, I wanted
> to remove that because that was not true and quite misleading, as that
> release was over 12 years ago... the "alpha57" as some new experimental
> release was also not true and misleading.
> Instead of using the cyclone page in puredata.info as a source for
> releases, both me and Fred Jan agreed it was just best to mention that the
> latest releases are available in deken, and then use that page to point to
> cyclone repositories for more info (this was discussed on this list on the
> "editing puredata.info downloads" thread).
> So, in order to update the cyclone page, there were basically two options:
> add new releases to it OR remove the releases from that page. As the latter
> choice was agreed to be the best, I was trying to do it...
> Then I evidently could not get a grip on how to remove the releases from
> the page, and I did screw it up badly, but I obviously had no intention of
> doing anything irreversible, or to destroy and remove the cyclone page -
> that was an accident.
>> it always puzzles me no end how people believe they can undo the course of
>> history by trying to rip out pages of a book.
> It puzzles me you'd assume that was the case here :)
> Moreover, it should be noticeable that I've been working very hard on
> researching and finding about the history of cyclone on my own, so I can
> present it and preserve it accurately, as I've been doing in my repository
> and on a paper I wrote and presented in the last pd convention. So don't
> worry, cyclone's history is preserved, and it wasn't really well presented
> in that page anyway... And, as a matter of fact, I was portraying a much
> better overview of cyclone's history before I accidentally deleted the
> page.
> I hope you please reconsider the idea and notion I was trying to erase
> history...
> cheers
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