[PD] searching for an object

Pagano, Patrick patrick.pagano at uconn.edu
Wed Apr 5 12:42:14 CEST 2017

i only use 42.5 extended for pdp/GEM patches,

for this i use Vanilla on linux for an Organelle. i am grateful for the help, thank you!

Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A

Assistant Professor in Residence

Digital Media & Design

Web & Interactive Technologies

University of Connecticut, Stamford


From: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 10:52:42 PM
To: Lucas Cordiviola
Cc: Pagano, Patrick; pd list
Subject: Re: [PD] searching for an object

since this topic shows a lot in this mailing list, I could also go ahead and prevent someone from saying that both cyclone and zexy carry the same comparison objects, that is not true...

zexy and cylone both have >~, <~ and ==~

but only cyclone has !=~, >=~, <=~,

while only zexy has &&~ and ||~

cyclone also has some other non alphanumeric math objects: %~, !-, !-~, !/, !/~ and +=~

2017-04-04 23:47 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com<mailto:porres at gmail.com>>:
I hope you're not using Pd extended, as we dont use that anymore

if you wanna try the new Purr Data (the new alternative to Pd Extended), it will automatically load the [>~] object for you, without the need to declare anything. The loaded object is from zexy (though purr data also carries cyclone 0.2)


2017-04-04 23:43 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com<mailto:porres at gmail.com>>:
howdy, if you have the latest vanilla, you can search for externals in 'deken'

just go to "help => find externals" and type in the object

searching for ">~" brings up the latest cyclone (0.3 alpha)


now, this only works if someone uploaded the library containing all the objects.

2017-04-04 20:45 GMT-03:00 Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27 at hotmail.com<mailto:lucarda27 at hotmail.com>>:
[>~] is in cyclone. Some objects from cyclone require to load the lib: [declare -stdlib cyclone] or [declare -lib your/path/to/cyclone]

this is accurate, cyclone has it and you need to load the library, but let me add more information. In the new cyclone, [>~] is part of the cyclone library, so you need to load the library (putting it in your "path" preferences also work.

Now, the new cyclone also has alphanumeric aliases that you can load without loading the library [greaterthan~] is the alias of [>~]

Now, cyclone 0.2 also has [>~], but you'd need to load the 'nettles' library, we thought it was best to change this as in earlier versions (from cyclone 0.1) you needed to load the cyclone library for those...

So, when searching for the >~ object in deken, you don't find the cyclone 0.2 version because that object is not listed in the given object list.

Also, the zexy library does have a [>~] object too... but it doesn't show up when searching for externals because it doesn't have an object list up in deken, so I assume.

Finally, if you want a vanilla solution, just use

[expr~ $v1 > $v2]


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