[PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.48-0test1 released

[Andy Farnell]

Yes! Readability at a distance is really important in class.
I vote for the heaviest dejavu typeface that will work.

Also it only just occured to me to say this, so a feature request 
for some future release; It would be great to make a slightly 
stronger visual distinction between objects and message boxes. 
The indent on the right side of message boxes is often misread 
by students who are tired or sitting at the back.  

cheers,
Andy


On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 02:50:11AM +0000, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
> Based on :
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/wiki/Crossplatform-font-metrics-%26-comparisons
> 
> 
> I think that dejavu is pretty Ok.
> 
> And pdx font metrics is also Ok. This is a major change to everybody, it looks smaller on all Os, but has benefits, one is that patches render the same on Purr-data/Pd-L2ork.
> 
> I don't see any downside on pdx font metrics.
> 
> 
> 
> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
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> Hah, funny that never occurred to me. I tried all sorts of rounding with the font metrics discovery.
> 
> It does work, but the default Monaco rendering is too thin and the text is not very readable when the font size is 10 or lower.
> 
> However, I just tried with Deja Vu Sans Mono and it looks *great*. I mean, really. I brought the dejavu branch up to date and it's working with the mac build. We can add Windows font support later.
> 
> On Jul 20, 2017, at 7:25 AM, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu<mailto:msp at ucsd.edu>> wrote:
> 
> Ok... I think I have a workaround that will allow us to ship with
> TCL/TK 8.5 (at last.....)
> 
> I've pushed a compiled Mac app and the source to my webpage and
> git-pushed.
> 
> cheers
> Miller
> 
> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 12:38:44PM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
> Sure enough - with TK 8.5, font sizes are no longer integers; the
> "font metrics" command appears to return the next-higher integer
> sizes (thus throwing off box sizes and messing up selecting text within
> boxes).
> 
> I'm not sure what to do - try to adapt Pd to deal with fractional font
> sizes, or find some way to force TK 5 to use integer-sized fonts, or
> just give up and use 8.4 for another cycle...
> 
> Incidentally, 8.4 isn't yet building on my MacOS 10.6... maybe I can just
> include the system-provided one :)
> 
> M
> 
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:22:35PM +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote:
> I've added  a macOS 32bit 0.48.0-test1 build using the normal (old, included) Tk 8.4 wish: http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/ <http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/>
> 
> On Jul 15, 2017, at 11:02 AM, pd-list-request at lists.iem.at<mailto:pd-list-request at lists.iem.at> <mailto:pd-list-request at lists.iem.at> wrote:
> 
> I notice it looks quite differently in Mac OS, like there is a new font, but it still seems it is Monaco. But the font size is smaller and the boxes are thinner and wider. A subpatch will also have an extra space to the right after the text/name of the subpatch.
> 
> You are seeing the retina rendering with a newer Tk, which still has those font issues as the rendered box size does not quite fit the font. I haven't been able to track down a fix yet.
> 
> It's weird, though, as this shouldn't be the default yet and Pd should still be using 8.4 which is pixelated on retina screens but has correct object sizing.
> 
> Miller, how did you build the mac distribution app?
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