[PD] Font-Metrics was:( linux: "-font-size" startup flag -- does this work?)

[Simon Iten]

end of life?

On Sep 15, 2017 01:54, "Alexandre Torres Porres" <porres at gmail.com> wrote:

> what is "EOLs"?
>
> 2017-09-13 11:20 GMT-03:00 Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27 at hotmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Alexander
>>
>> As Roman mentioned the "pd-gui.tcl" and you surely made your patches with
>> Pdx, can you test tweaking the .tcl?
>>
>> To check if your patches render correctly?
>>
>> here's the How-to:
>>
>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/wiki/Crossplatform-fo
>> nt-metrics-%26-comparisons
>>
>> Plans for this were mentioned by Dan a month ago:
>>
>> https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2017-08/119967.html
>>
>> Independently of the "nuts and bolts" of the relevant code that's
>> different from Pdx my tests gave good results. In other words simply
>> changing the hard coded metrics makes patches render like Pdx (specially
>> EOLs).
>>
>> Can you test and give feedback?
>>
>>
>> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>>
>> On 9/13/2017 4:28 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
>>
>> Hey Alexander
>>
>> I hear you and I am in the same boat.
>>
>> On Die, 2017-09-12 at 21:50 -0400, Alexander Connor wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for these answers.
>>
>> Editing the Pd text file wasn't really much of a solution for me
>> since I'm dealing with a very large patch with many subpatches which
>> would all have to be changed; I was really looking for a way to scale
>> everything at once and back again should the need arise.
>>
>> I guess the reason it is not a solution is because the available font
>> sizes don't match what you want. Otherwise I believe it would be worth
>> going through all of your patches. You can automate something like
>> this. IOhannes just gave you the first hint.
>>
>>
>> However it would appear that there is basically no solution to this
>> problem until font rendering is fixed.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I think so, too.
>>
>>
>> Guess I'll have to stick with my EOLs for now.  Too bad.  I really
>> wanted to start distributing this patch.
>>
>> I see. There is something nobody mentioned yet: You could also tweak
>> the font metrics in pd-gui.tcl. Obviously, this only fixes the
>> situation for your Pd installation, it wouldn't help if your goal is to
>> distribute your graphically sophisticated patches. I'm in the same
>> situation as you and I currently deal with it by fixing the font-
>> metrics for myself (which is not a viable solution, of course).
>>
>>
>> I tried to mostly use the GUI object fonts that aren't affected by
>> this in the "up front" user areas of the patch but there's a few
>> areas such as the symbol boxes where you can't get around this.
>>
>> Absolutely. [symbolatom \ is the only text input I know of in Pd and I
>> keep stumbling about the exact same problem. It'd help a lot already if
>> there is a symbolbox2 with configurable font similar to the 'Number2'
>> widget.
>>
>>
>>    It completely  messes up the neatly spaced background "guts" that
>> I set up to make it easier to read for anyone who wanted to make
>> mods.   Lots of compact tightly aligned spacing going on.  As I said
>> it's very large (been working on it for years) and reformatting just
>> to correct for this error doesn't seem worth it especially if I have
>> to switch it all back when (if?) the problem is corrected in Pd.
>>
>> I, too, think it is probably not worth to fix this in your patches
>> _now_. Currently, the situation is still a bit messy. As of Pd 0.48,
>> patches are rendered the same on macOS and on Linux, but on both
>> platforms, patches looked different in earlier versions, so patches you
>> made for 0.47 are messed up now. Pd on Windows looks again very
>> different. The different available font sizes result in totally
>> different box sizes on Windows compared to macOS and Linux. Also, box
>> sizes depend on whether the font DejaVu Sans Mono is installed or not.
>> On macOS and Linux, this is already the default font and is shipped
>> with Pd, on Windows this is planned.
>>
>> It is slightly frustrating not to be able to rely on some graphical
>> features in a graphical programming language.
>>
>> Roman
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 14:03:24 +0000, Lucas Cordiviola<lucarda27 at hotmail.com> <lucarda27 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> The OP is trying to use font 9.
>>
>> He will get font 8 if he edit the the Pd-patch as a text file.
>>
>>
>> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>>
>> On 9/12/2017 10:10 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>>
>> On 2017-09-12 14:55, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
>>
>>
>>   Or alternatively (but much less desirability) a variable to edit
>> within the text file
>>
>>
>> Nop.
>>
>>
>>
>> of course you can (if by "text file" you mean the Pd-patch):
>>
>> ~~~sh
>> PTS=12
>> PATCH=patch.pd
>> sed -e "s/^\(#N canvas [0-9 ]*\) [0-9]*;$/\1 ${PTS};/" -i
>> "${PATCH}"
>> ~~~
>>
>> gbsmdr
>> IOhannes
>>
>>
>>
>>
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